University-the only way to enter life?

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University-the only way to enter life?

Postby Arale » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:44 pm

It seems the opinion of having a high degree is always great pressure for all students. Some parents force their children to pass the university entrance exam. So most high school students have to work hard at this time. They even don't have time to relax. Spending most day-time at school, they have to attend many other extra lessons at night. Many pupils at primary or secondary school have to study so much too. I feel sad for some students who must obey their parents' opinion to study what they don't like. It means they have to give up their dreams, their desires and take up a job they may feel bored all life. Studying at university is not the only way to step into life. We have various ways. Can you keep your own opinion to finish your dream? :roll:

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Postby hatsumi » Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:49 am

I agree that university is not the only way to enter life, but it's one of the best.

However, you're a Vietnamese, so I think you know that studying so hard in primary and secondary schools can't be advoided, because if the pupils don't do that, they can't be enter a good high schools or an good university, and it's the common circumstance.

I know many people are eager to change it, but it depends on the education policy of state, it means that this case won't be changed soon.

Moreover, in Vietnam, entering university can be considered the best and even the only, because of some following reasons:

Firstly, the matter of diploma is seen so high, it's the view of a country, many generations that's very difficult to change.

Secondly, the education in colleges, traning skills schools, etc, and the ability of solving unemployment is low. The education program can't meet the demand of the market and the trend of development.

Thirdly, you know, not almost family can let their children study abroad so that university is still their wish.

and many other reasons.

These above are my oppinions which can't be the same with you. I look forward to hearing your view.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR! my fellow- country man

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Postby Shazzam » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:09 am

Amazingly enough some of the most prodominent business people in society, don't have University degrees. In fact in Australia quite a few wealth and successful business people didn't even finish high school. My opinion is that the school of life can sometimes provide the field for people to sew their dreams. You have to have imagination and motivation, even with a university degree. Innovation is the way forward. 8)

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Postby Shazzam » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:11 am

Always strive to make your dreams come true no matter what they are; or what other people say about them. :idea: 8)

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Postby illusion » Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:18 pm

Shazzam wrote:Always strive to make your dreams come true no matter what they are; or what other people say about them. :idea: 8)


i totally agree :)

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Postby hatsumi » Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:47 pm

I see, but the difficulty in Vietnam is that almost people appreciate the degrees highly and almost the youth used to live by their parents. In addition, the matter of entering university is always a serious problem of society.
It's very hard to change the Vietnamese's view.

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Postby Tungono » Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:49 pm

Look at Bill Gates. U will have answear
But I wondering how many ppl can do like him?

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Postby illusion » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:18 pm

Tungono wrote:Look at Bill Gates. U will have answear
But I wondering how many ppl can do like him?


I'm sure he has few close friends...everyone does, don't they?

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Postby shokin » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:10 pm

It is stigmatizing people, the fact to believe that university is the best or the only way to get a life. Many people can have a happy life without going to university or any other high school.

Badly, many parents force their child(ren) to go somewhere (to university for example).

Don't try to find a meaning to their bullshiting problems. Find a sense to your life.

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Postby Oriani » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:26 pm

Well, I must say that I live in another city very far from my hometown because of college and I live happily, I mean, I've found several friends as I've lost as well... I've learnt a lot about life. and other kinds of things..!!! College or university is just a period of the life...!!!! but I have to say that we have to live Today... you never know when you're gonna die! :?

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Postby Admiral » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:55 pm

I think so, university is very important.

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Postby Oriani » Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:20 am

Admiral wrote:I think so, university is very important.


Of Course It Is :P

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Postby MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:46 am

It's not the only way, but I think whoever could have a chance to study and be able to get to college should go to college.

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Postby shokin » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:51 pm

Everyone has its own idea of happiness and the way to touch it.

The worst is to impose its idea to children.

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Postby MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:58 pm

shokin wrote:Everyone has its own idea of happiness and the way to touch it.

The worst is to impose its idea to children.

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But how would you think about these kinda parents, "oh it's okay. Yeah, just drop out of high school if you wanted to. There are more things and chances in life for you. Do whatever you want even if you might turn out to be a bum." What is your thought about those kinda parents? :?

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Postby shokin » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:04 pm

I think parents should show their children the most possible opportunities and ways in life, not only university.

Maybe the child won't prefer the university, maybe he will.

The child's motivation sources you cannot choose.

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Postby MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:15 pm

shokin wrote:I think parents should show their children the most possible opportunities and ways in life, not only university.

Maybe the child won't prefer the university, maybe he will.

The child's motivation sources you cannot choose.

Shokin

This is true, but have you ever thought of there are kids who don't know what they want or just afraid or too lazy to get what they want? Some kids need boundaries, and as being good parents they should tell their kids to learn more. Don't push the kids to study what they want them to study. Tell them to study what they like to study. Don't go to college is a bad advice to me. How many people are there like Bill Gates? And for Bill Gates's case, he dropped out of COLLEGE because they had nothing more to teach him. He did indeed get in Harvard.

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Postby shokin » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:39 pm

Each being is a particular case. :lol:

So, I won't say that university (or any other path) is the best one.

When you make people believe that some thing is necessary (and it is not necessary), you make them frustrated if they miss this thing, frustration which shouldn't be.

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Postby Admiral » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:02 am

It's the most conventional way.

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Postby Shazzam » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:38 am

Admiral wrote:It's the most conventional way.


Not necessarily. There are many alternatives, university and college aren't the only ways. :!:

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Postby keko » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:32 pm

Right Shazzam
Universities and Colleges are not the only way.Arts and craft, trade, small-sized companies are some options. The question is to choose what makes your dreams come true. It will only depend on you and whichever it is your choise, always try to do your best.


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