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Postby Shazzam » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:36 pm

Pearla wrote:Well, i think it's a good idea.

they are spending money to destroy their health, so let them pay for building something useful in their countries or saving people's lives, if the country decided use the amount of money they are going to pay, to finance health researches.


I don't know about the rest of the world but in my country cigerettes are heavily taxed by state and federal governments.

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Postby DocAndy » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:44 am

I have the same oppinion.
Smoking sould be a little bit more expensive.
But I think the better way is to stop smoking in Restaunts, Discos, and so on.....

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Postby Shazzam » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:56 am

DocAndy wrote:I have the same oppinion.
Smoking sould be a little bit more expensive.
But I think the better way is to stop smoking in Restaunts, Discos, and so on.....


That already happens in my country too. So in Australia we have the taxes, the exclusion etc etc etc. I thought the rest of the World would have these policies as well. :shock:

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Postby DocAndy » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:47 pm

Shazzam wrote:
DocAndy wrote:I have the same oppinion.
Smoking sould be a little bit more expensive.
But I think the better way is to stop smoking in Restaunts, Discos, and so on.....


That already happens in my country too. So in Australia we have the taxes, the exclusion etc etc etc. I thought the rest of the World would have these policies as well. :shock:


Yeah, right! Thats cool. I don't know that this happens in Australia. :shock:

Maybe we get it in Austria in the future. I hope so!!

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Postby shokin » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:57 pm

PLEASE NO SMOKING IN ESL COMMUNITY !

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Postby Rui » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:16 pm

well, i'm not a smoker but i have to admit that i understand their point when they say all the taxes they are paying are being very important in other aspects of the society, this happens in portugal if you take a look to the money they are paying in taxes per year it's clearly that the government is using the money of the cigarettes to invest in other areas, so if they are smoking to pay some debts of the government instead of being me and all the people paying those debts, I guess I can handle with them, but this is just a point of view, i respect all the people that is against them and i also don't like to be eating or drinking something with someone throwing the smoke over me :wink:

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Postby Shazzam » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:10 am

Rui wrote:well, i'm not a smoker but i have to admit that i understand their point when they say all the taxes they are paying are being very important in other aspects of the society, this happens in portugal if you take a look to the money they are paying in taxes per year it's clearly that the government is using the money of the cigarettes to invest in other areas, so if they are smoking to pay some debts of the government instead of being me and all the people paying those debts, I guess I can handle with them, but this is just a point of view, i respect all the people that is against them and i also don't like to be eating or drinking something with someone throwing the smoke over me :wink:


Same thing applies though. If you are somewhere where smokers are allowed to smoke (and lets face it there aren't many places left) and you don't like it, then you should go somewhere else.

Let's face it there are probably more places for non-smokers now than smokers, so communities have to be fair about this. :roll:

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Postby tikay » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:11 pm

I am going to once again play the devils advocate( meaning to take the opposte opinion) for the sake of smokers worldwide...without smoking can you imagine how much time would be on the hands of all the stressed out people who would then have nothing to do but act on those stressful things that cause them to smoke in the first palce...(I have been a smoker who was inclined to quit very often for the sake of health and then return for the sake of my health)

SURE some people would rather light up a cig and say screw it all than plot the murder of their spouse...if you get my drift,
if smoking calms the nerves would you take that away from that crazy fellow that you work with or rather see him coming to work one day with his machine gun...we need to question things baby...i would rather smell cigarettes all the time than have people being even more nuts around me than they
already are! (in los angeles anyway)
( Although I too might get a mask)

Abyway its a little fun with the what if....alternative...and besides
give people time to change...sure a massage would be better to relax with but is there a therapist outside every office building just waiting for us to come out so they can rub our sore necks? Not yet! :lol:
so ease up youngsters...(i have to think) and give people time to change...also smoking is not an immoral act it is just a bad habit...perpitrated by cigarette industry...it is only becoming a moral wrong when you dont consider all the aspects of the dangers...your kids will like it if you give it up...and so
enough said....anybody?
OH AND ABOUT THE SPELLING THING>>>YOU ARE HERE TO HELP PEOPLE NOT TO CRITISIZE RIGHT? Can you write in their native language without mis-spelling???
probably not....I apologise for them, my friends! (in case they don't) :lol: 8) :D :shock: :oops: :lol: :) :? :wink:

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you have the proper perspective...shazamm!

Postby tikay » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:52 pm

Shazzam wrote:
CityYoung wrote:The govrement must stop enter cigarettes in their country . After that no body will smoke :)


Good idea, then they can also tell us what to eat, how many times a day to go to the toilet and what colour underpants to wear. :roll:



Shazamm has the right attitude there!
we must all watch-out for what we ask for
especially with goverment intervention into our privacy!!!...you might get it honey!
a police state where they tell you what to do.... Martial law is no joke.
Nobody tells me how to smoke or not smoke and i choose to smoke one cigarette each night before i sleep...a very moderate girl, sometimes i will indulge more when i have big stress.
I dont mind if my friend smokes thirty cigs a day as long as they have the right to do it....I am not their commander I am their friend. but I do appreciate the thinking it is unhealthy...just no govt. rules on this!

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Postby tikay » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:59 pm

thanks for that! although I dont really smoke anymore....quit recently again, I have long indulged in moderate smoking of the tobacco plants offerings...

people have been smoking for millennia....who's to say that a tiny bit of a bad thing is not alright for some...it seems to be the abuse that is the problem!
In fact I recently read something about a discovery of the health benefits of smoking tobacco....I will see if I can find the link... ...On second thought, NO... I wont because people will see it as permission to take it too far!



as for sex abuse and shopping....I prefer the sex, shopping is making my house very hard to keep clean since I am a sentimental sort of person, while sex was only a little bit messy and very much more enjoyable! Needless to say I couldn't keep all the lovers in a closet, (if only)
so they are much easier to deal with, than a shopping problem.

:lol: on sex and having a cigarette....
the moderation of cigarettes...you cant smoke too much if you keep your self busy having sex....only one (in between sessions) and another at the end is necessary :lol:

Keeping busy is the best way to stop smoking cigs.
Beat them out with healthy hobbys that you find more satisfying. :wink:

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Postby tikay » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:39 pm

I am going to begin a thread on how to quit so everyone can share how they stop smoking or even how they keep themselves away from starting to smoke. :?
I think it is a good idea. :idea:


dont forget the demon sugar! :lol:

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Postby samento » Wed May 10, 2006 5:50 am

I agree with this policy.
Why? The goverment must pay too expensive for these smokers. When they are sick from cigarette, e.g., acute exacerbation of COPD, lung cancer, or bronchitis. These patient go to hospitals or clinics for seeking treatments.
So I think that we should get the high rate taxes from smoker.
And I hope that higher taxes will reduce a use of cigarette, like the high oil price. :)

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Postby shokin » Wed May 10, 2006 6:35 am

In Switzerland, cigarette has chance to be prohibited in bars and pubs. It's already done in universities, trains and many restaurants !

Good thing !

Let you smoke outside or don't smoke !

I don't like my clothes and skin to smell cigarette.

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Re: Smokers should pay high taxes for cigarettes.

Postby byron » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:31 pm

TP wrote:Smokers should pay high taxes for cigarettes.

smoker: a person who smokes cigarettes
tax: a charge by the government added to the price of goods and services

Britain has raised taxes so much that 84% of rolling tobacco used in the country is now brought in from the EEC countries where it is cheaper. Net result is a tremendous loss in taxes. Drug smugglers make more profit smuggling tobacco than drugs. There was a time when smokers paid for the entire National Health Service... no longer.
incidentally! Passive smoking is now proved to not be a threat. One breathes in more carceogenics just living in a city than sitting in a country pub full of smokers.

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Postby essie » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:55 am

Passive smoking is now proved to not be a threat. One breathes in more carceogenics just living in a city than sitting in a country pub full of smokers.


What about the guy sitting in a pub full of smokers, which is located in a city?

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Postby byron » Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:14 am



What about the guy sitting in a pub full of smokers, which is located in a city?


He should get out and go to a pub that forbids smoking. He might find it empty but he will be happy and feeling sanctimonious.

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Postby essie » Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:30 am

But would it more unhealthy?

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Side note. Aside from your own private residence, all indoor smoking has been banned for some time here in Ontario. As of this month smoking in a casino has also been banned. But get this, here comes the kicker!> Smoking under semi covered structures has also been banned. For example, if you wanted to take a break from work and go out for a smoke, you better make sure you're standing far away enough, so that when you look up, all you see is sky. Restaurants are having to prohibit smoking in their outdoor patios, but only if it has a roof.

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Postby byron » Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:28 am

Under such stringent rules smoking will become a fun thing to do for youngsters. Teenagers automatically rebel and will enjoy in breaking the laws.
No smoking was introduced for Pubs in Ireland. 22% sales drop was the result as people took their booze home instead. England introduces a similar ban soon and Publicans are very worried.
I still maintain that smoking is a personal choice. If people wish to do so then let them. If other people object then let them use places where it is forbidden. There are many non-smoking restaurants, pubs and other leisure places in Britain.

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Postby crystalfrogw » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:58 pm

Not only smokers should pay high tax but the place they smoke should be limited strictly.
Firstly, smoking causes seriously air pollution, and effects others'health. So they have the obligation to pay for the affects they bring about.High tax is just one of remedies.
Secondly,If some people can't resist the temptation of smoking,they should consider other people's benefit. At least the place they smoke should be controlled strictly in stead of without paying attention to feelings of people beside them.
Thirdly, children shoud be educated not to smoke and enhance the propagation on the disadvantages of smoking and then fewer and fewer kids smoke after they grow up.
All in all i am for the high taxes on smokers

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Postby Krisi » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:11 pm

:) This is a good idea, I think.
If smokers can easily risk their life for a pack or two each day,
it's not a big deal for them to spare more money for their people. :wink:

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Re: Smokers should pay high taxes for cigarettes.

Postby Annaa » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:41 am

Yeah I think that smokers need to pay hight taxes for cigarettes,and governments need to close tobacco`s factories.
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