jeffcox wrote:So, three modifications at least!
And after all those modifications, who says it's the Word of God?
jeffcox wrote:I really love the way that if it makes sense in the Bible, use it... if it doesn't, then it's God being more intelligent than us so we should accept it anyway, so use it. Why can't a Christian simply say, I don't understand it?
jeffcox wrote:Because if they can't understand it, they cannot follow the teachings of Jesus and go to heaven. Therefore, they have to 'understand it'... because they're damned if they don't.
The question that pops up in my mind by reading your lines: who chose and rated them to be the real word of God? Human beings? Some years ago I read a very interesting book about the Dead Sea scrolls, I always asked myself since then, why weren't they chosen for the bibel?danyet wrote:I have read some of the books not chosen for the NT and it is clear that there were fakes
jeffcox wrote:Anyway, I love your ideas and the fact that we can debate them. I hope that my comments do not offend you, or my choice of expression.
danyet wrote:I have already told you where the proof is that the hebrew Bible has not been changed in at least 2500 - 3000 years by as much as a letter...twice! Yet you still all argue this point.
danyet wrote:There is no question by serious minds that the Hebew Bible is unchanged.
danyet wrote:The question is about the New Testament. But the only question is "why were some books chosen and others not?".
danyet wrote:There are no changes in the New Testament. There are only good accurate translations and poor translations which can easily be verified by anyone by checking the original Greek New Testament. This can be done by anyone who bothers to go to their book store and look at a Greek Lexicon. All the words are numbered and explained line by line.
danyet wrote:Your bickering and arguing this point only show me how little you know about the subject at hand!
And you know what they say about opinions!
I did use the word 'change' once and I would have prefered the word 'modified' in that I believe exact translations are not possible in all aspects of any language.
I do not despise God, I cannot despise what does not exist!
Rach wrote:The question that pops up in my mind by reading your lines: who chose and rated them to be the real word of God? Human beings? Some years ago I read a very interesting book about the Dead Sea scrolls, I always asked myself since then, why weren't they chosen for the bibel?danyet wrote:I have read some of the books not chosen for the NT and it is clear that there were fakes
it's all a question of belief.
Provide evidence for or against... it all comes down to belief.
I believe that God does not exist. Therefore, I make my comments based on what I believe, as do those who believe.
LennyeTran wrote:What's it about?
jeffcox wrote:We all have beliefs. I call myself an athiest because I don't believe in God. I do believe in people. I believe people are good and bad, and it has nothing to do with any God or Devil!
Good point, I did contradict myself a little. I chose the wrong word. Well, it was 2:30 in the morning and I should have been sleeping and my brain was already trying to .
When I said I believe that God does not exist, I meant that I trust my feelings and opinion on this matter, as in the second definition below. Perhaps I should have said: I assert that God does not exist.
▶an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.
▶a firmly held opinion or conviction.
LennyeTran wrote:Who knows in the future that we could prove the existence of God.... by science.
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