Who is responsible for motivating students?

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Postby meylenlau » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:59 pm

At the tender age teachers tought us,
Alphabets,numerals, morals and others,
Teachers praised, rewarded us with little gifts or stars,
We felt happy and tended to learn more and fast,
Were they not called motivation?

lots of aspects must be considered during their lessons,
Various approaches and theories have to apply but not mention,
To attract pupils and and get their potency evolves without tension,
Different pupils with different characters and intelligence,
Do you think possible not to include motivation?

Motivation sometimes applies abstractly in teaching and learning,teacher initiates a challenge to create an atmosphere of competition amongst pupils is a motivation! Scrutinising the profession and understand more ,then one will realise the process of teaching and learning must be parallel with motivation.If you are a teacher you would agree with me.

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Re: motivating students

Postby desertman » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:12 pm

tina wrote:motivating is a two- way issue
firstly the teacher has to be a motivating factor in her classroom ;she has to master her subject matter ,and know how to impact this across to students in a manner that would get interested in learning the language


well,that sounds right.

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Postby samanehkarga » Tue May 23, 2006 10:52 am

in my opinion teachers are responsible to motivate students if they are bad-tempered or they don't know the topic well students won't like the lessons so most important point is the teachers manner and the class situation

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Postby Archer » Sun May 28, 2006 5:10 am

Not living in poverty, or a life of meanial labor type jobs.. it is up to the student to be motivated to learn, after all it is their life that will be effected by what they do and do not know, their life will be effected by what they can and can not do, all things must be learned, you can never know to much, but, it is rather easy to not know enough.

It is the teachers job to teach, the best teacher in the world can not teach someone who is unwilling to learn.. a good teacher will never allow any student to not understand the lesson being taught no matter what it takes to help that student to learn what it is they do not understand.

There is a old saying that still holds true.. never try to teach a pig to dance.. it annoys the pig, and wastes the teachers time.

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Postby Dixie » Sun May 28, 2006 9:14 am

Archer wrote:There is a old saying that still holds true.. never try to teach a pig to dance.. it annoys the pig, and wastes the teachers time.


:lol: Brilliant!

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Postby Thoughts » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:08 am

It is true to say that there are some important environments which have great deals in motivating students.Firstly, parent's care plays a good role to direct their student's mind & attitude to achieve any sought aim.Secondly, the school & its staff, especially the teacher himself.The successful teacher has great influence to prompt his student.What is essential here & which can be considered as the most important condition, is student's ambition & his desire to improve himself & get high level.Any student who is interested in this of coures will be abl to motivate & encourage himself by himsl far from any social,living &other environments in his life.

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Postby Seafarer » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:38 am

It is impossible to tell that only the teacher is responsible of motivating the students. I got lots of friends who weren't able to motivate themselves even if our poor teacher spent all her time to motivate them. The student should be willing to being motivated.

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Postby jeffcox » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:24 pm

A good teacher will do all they reasonably can to motivate students. But that's not always possible.

As Seafarer said, some students just don't work well in some groups. Some 'collections of students' never become 'a group' in the 'united' sense of the word.

And then again, I'm a teacher and NOT a babysitter. Many students make the mistake of thinking this. Sometimes I ask my students to bring things in to make the class more dynamic, and they don't even bother. I could bring in all the things myself, as the teacher, but I think that they need to take some responsibility for their group and for their own learning experience.

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Postby hoanggia » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:44 pm

YEAH I AGREE MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID.I VE BEEN TEACHING QUITE MANY CLASSES AND I MAY SAY IT DEPENDS ON TWO SIDES -THE TEACHERS AND THE STUDENTS TO MAKE THE LEARNINGTIME INTERESTING.HOWEVER IT;S DEPEND MOST ON THE STUDENT'S FORCE OF LEARNING.IF THEY SET UP A GOAL OF GOING ABROAD STUDYING ,YOU WOULDN'T WASTE MUCH SALIVA. :P :D

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Postby CityYoung » Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:59 pm

In my opinion both of them . First on students and the Secound on teachers . the teacher should motivate his her students because the students take any word comes out of the teacher and work by it .

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Postby Vega » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:50 am

I think that motivating students is not teachers' job , teacher only can show you right way.
In my academy where i study there's a lector who always is motivating students to study, but few
students study. I think that if you want really to get a knowledges then you don't need wait when somebody
will motivate you.

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Postby feanor » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:01 pm

i m motivated if i want to be motivated or if i feel i must be motivated. this happens especially when a lesson is important for me or quite diffucult to pass. teacher has a very small role for me..

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Postby Gwynfor » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:24 pm

I think that the teacher's role is very important, but many things depend on family and a system of education.

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Postby wllsp » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:10 pm

Briefly, I think adults should be self-motivated and children become interested in learning English due to a teacher.

Learning English is a rather difficult task for most adults. It easily might take two or three or even more years to become good at it. Personally I've met enough people who started learning English and then after some time stoped going to lessons and doing homework. Apart from time it requires a lot of efforts to archive results. It seems that only self-motivated students manage to get though this process. So I believe that in this case the only role of
a teacher is to use an effective methodology.

As for childern it's a completely different picture. Often they simply like playing and definetely aren't focused on their future career. So the process of education must be interesting and lessons must be entertaining. Therefore teachers are responsible for motivating and encouraging their young students.

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Postby cuongviet » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:58 am

themself, their teachers, their parents, Friends...
But the most important one is themself. They must be responsible for their past, present and future.

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Postby ASG » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:07 am

my point of veiw is the responsible is the teacher with his ways to explain the lesson.

if he good in explain and friendly to share the ideas with student I think there will be intraction class.

some ways I suggest is group work,share the student to each other and every short period a quizz

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Postby ericfiel » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:25 pm

I think everyone learns something if he/she is happy doing it. So I think the teacher is really important because in my opnion he's responsable for motivating the class, making the the student intersted on it.

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teacher.........

Postby crystalfrogw » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:31 pm

people ofen say when studying a learner is a kind of inner cause and the teacher is aknd of exteral cause. exteral cause is decided by inner cause. that it to say they believe a student should motivate him/hersekf first, but just like a seed if it is put aside insted of burry it into soild or be watered, it won't sprouting forever.
a learn is just like the seed and the teacher is the one who helps the seed sprout.
So in this sence teacher is crucial in learning....

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Postby ngphuongtu » Sat May 05, 2007 7:27 am

I think the students themselves and their classmates are two first motivations.

The students innitially must have a good sense of studying as well as set themselves dreams and ambitions for their future. Then students will try their best to obtain them.
There's no class in which all students are equally shrewd or clever. That creates rivalry. Feeling that they are inferior, students will have an inspiration to 'overtake' their friends, which is a stimulus for their studying. Moreover, during that 'contest', they can be good fellows who are ready to help each other advance.

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Postby Bambang » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:44 pm

It's the responsibility of all stakeholders. The students themselves, teachers, family, environment, government and education institutions should be responsible for this. The learning-teaching process would only be effective if all parties participated actively in building a healthy atmosphere to the process. But sadly, it seems that the responsibility is always put on the teacher's shoulder.

Usually, if a student fails something then people will blame it on the teacher. What an injustice!!! On the other hand, if a student passes the class or very good at something, then the parents will usually say "My child is indeed smart". It seems that the smartness of the student is something purely inherited from their parents. There's no teachers factor in this success. What an injustice!!! What a partial!!! :evil:

ngphuongtu wrote:There's no class in which all students are equally shrewd or clever. That creates rivalry. Feeling that they are inferior, students will have an inspiration to 'overtake' their friends, which is a stimulus for their studying. Moreover, during that 'contest', they can be good fellows who are ready to help each other advance.


My friend, one of the latest issues in the education system is how to get the students to compete with themselves instead of getting the students to compete to their classmates. I can not elaborate any further on this because this is not a suitable post to talk about it. I'll elaborate this if there is a special topic on the education system. However, my point is do not always compare one student to another as don't compare one child to another. Because everybody is unique.

wllsp wrote:So, the process of education must be interesting and lessons must be entertaining. Therefore teachers are responsible for motivating and encouraging their young students.


I agree with you in some points. The process of education must be interesting. That's why teachers must be creative in delivering the lessons. But again my friend, Teachers is just one factor in the learning-teaching process. It will never work if other parties including the students themselves do not support this. So my friend, the teachers' shoulders are too weak to hold all the overloaded stuff. Let's avoid putting teachers as the scapegoat.

wllsp wrote:I think that the teacher's role is very important, but many things depend on family and a system of education.


My friend, I am absolutely in line with you on this. Is anybody else with us?


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