We are all basically selfish.

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Postby yuniu » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:15 am

Taking care of ourselves should be the priority lesson to everyone. If a person has no capability to take care of himself, how can we believe he is competent to balance his own interest with others. I believe a happy man delivers happiness to the neighborhood. A sad man spread pollution to the around.

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Postby Arale » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:43 am

All people are selfish. It is true. The difference is how selfish you are. Controlling your selfisfness is also an important principle to keep you from evils of life. I don't think people could absolutely rule it out so controlling it at the lowest level is really a great success.

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Postby crystalfrogw » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:32 am

we must admit human beings are selfish.....but when we realize it we sholud improve ourselves all the time.After all we are not saints........

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Postby intboy » Wed May 16, 2007 5:53 pm

Selfish is not exactly bad,as we must meet ourself needs firstly,then we can help others.

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Postby kathymimi » Thu May 31, 2007 2:27 pm

well, we are selfish in nature, but it doesn't mean this selfish will hurt others. unless our selfish hurts others, we should accept this personality.

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Postby Seafarer » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:14 pm

I had a weird example in my mind about this selfishness issue, but had never found the oppurtunity to post it, so thanks for this topic :P
I sometimes think that what if my boyfriend dies in an earthquake or any accident.Of course this means i will lose him but the person who is going to suffer cause of it , is ME! For that reason i never want this to happen.I guess this is a good example of my selfishness :roll:

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Postby Bambang » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:18 am

First of all, I would like to say that we are basically selfish. That’s true. But it's still in a comma not a period. Besides selfish creatures, we are also unselfish creatures. We are also helpful. We are the best creation that God has ever made. We are balanced creatures, full of positive and negative sides. That makes us better than other creatures in this universe.

God created angels with full of kindness and devil with full of badness. My point is as balanced creatures, we should be smart in managing ourselves. All we have to do is to minimize the negative natures and optimize or maximize the positive natures. So let's minimize our selfishness.

vivian_1987 wrote:If selfishness is defined thinking mainly about one’s own personal pleasure or profit without thinking about other people. Then I do not believe that all humans are selfish. I believe that many people are very concerned about others and love is present in this world. A minority of people may be selfish but I believe the majority of people are loving. Sometimes we may resort to thinking only about ourselves when we have been hurt and we resort to self-protection. We live in a world full of different people where cooperation is vital. Therefore, we must think about others as well as ourselves


I hope and believe that you are one of those who can be categorized as a smart person at maximizing the positive natures. I really appreciate you point of view my friend.

judy2004 wrote: …If you can not meet your demand, how can you give your food or money away to the poor? Those who can help the poor out must have earned surplus…


My friend, you don’t need to be rich to be able to give something to the poor. There are many many examples in this world when poor people can give something to the poorer ones. Giving something to someone is not about the wealth. It’s about heart and willingness. Sorry my friend, I didn’t mean to judge that you don’t have heart to do good deeds. I really hope that you are not in that category. Once again, please accept my apology if I am wrong.

Finally, my point is selfishness can be minimized if we have willingness to do that.

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Postby nightwish » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:24 am

Ok. I'll start from me, as I see myself I'm not a selfish person, but sometimes the human instinct plays a good part in our life and ecpecially when it's for our interests.
I'm not the best in this world, and I never prefered myself as the good person and the best one, I help all the people who need a help, I give the people who I really love more than I can give.

so all i wanna say that, it all depends on us to be selfish or not :!:

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Postby Bambang » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:10 pm

nightwish wrote:...so all i wanna say that, it all depends on us to be selfish or not :!:


Then choose not to be selfish my dear friend.
I hope and believe you will, won't you?

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Postby nightwish » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:12 pm

I'm not selfish dear! and thats for sure!

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Postby Bambang » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:26 am

Dear nightwish

I believe you are not.

Keep your unselfishness dear.

Psycologically speaking, it's not good for our mental health to be selfish.

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Postby TearHere » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:33 am

Yes, we are basically selfish. It's human nature. I won't claim that i'm not "selfish" because I become one at times. To me, it's my relationships with people that makes me control my selfishness. It's one of the few things I really appreciate- how love can actually overcome selfishness.

I mean, okay one can be selfish, but to be the "recipient" of the selfishness of other people is just mean. So in as much as I don't want people to be selfish to me, I also refrain from being selfish. :wink:

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Postby Bambang » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:46 am

TearHere wrote:Yes, we are basically selfish. It's human nature.:wink:


Supernaturally speaking, you are selfish my dear.

So, all you have to do is to tear up any selfishness in your deepest heart.

Supernaturally speaking, you can do it honey.
You can.
Just do it, then you'll see the result.

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YUppy..Selfish

Postby baobao » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:19 pm

TalkingPoint wrote:We are all basically selfish.

selfish (adjective) = thinking mainly about one’s own personal pleasure or profit without thinking about other people

Yes,indeed.Our basic instinct is absolutely selfish.According to what roman proverb by plautus in which then used by Thomas Hobbes:"Homo Homini Lupus"(Man is a wolf to man).Most of people must own desire to have more of personal pleasure or profit in order to satisfy their ego.For example,War was happened because the selfish ego that want to have more and more.Note:Not everypeople Selfish..

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Re: YUppy..Selfish

Postby Bambang » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:11 pm

baobao wrote:...Homo Homini Lupus"(Man is a wolf to man).


Disagree :!:

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With respectfully

Postby baobao » Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:27 am

Bambang i,m not claiming that everypeople are homo homini lupus.But our basical instinct is selfish isn't it?For example,corruption is one of example.Corruption is on behalf our self-interest,but the impact of it harm people or institution whom being corrupt.Our basical instinct is homo homini lupus which it can be change.If there are not(type homo homini lupus), is this world is so perfect by ignoring the fact type of homo homini lupus is exist.I'm sorry if i'm wrong,but it is my point of view.Thank you

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Look at babies.

Postby Bambang » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:11 am

Dear Baobao,

All people are basically nice. Look at babies when they were just born. Cute huh :!:

Environment makes people become wolves.

Sorry my dear, your favorite philosophers were wrong.

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Postby baobao » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:54 pm

yes..first of all,i agree to say that babies is innocent and cute but unfortunately the proverbs point to man not babies.Second that environment is created by people too,so i think is so hypocrite to blame environment.That i believe basically we are selfish which can be change.And this proverbs appropriate to this topic that people basically is selfish.And one more to judge that proverbs right or wrong is not wise.You have no right to say the philosophers wrong.If all people agree with you that it's wrong it will be completely remove from proverbs list.People have their own point of view,i respect everypeople point of view.I won't say it wrong because,i'm not so superior smart to judge it wrong.Thank You

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Be a man

Postby Bambang » Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:00 pm

baobao wrote:Yes..first of all, I agree to say that babies is innocent and cute but unfortunately the proverbs point to man not babies.


My dear, the baby is man. They are not animals.
The philosophers pointed at all men. "Men" here means men, women, boys, girls, included babies.

Baobao wrote:Second that environment is created by people too, so I think is so hypocrite to blame environment.


The question is :
are you a product of an environment or a heredity.

Baobao wrote:That I believe basically we are selfish which can be change.


We're basically nice and innocent. Just keep it. Don't change it. Don't be a wolf. I don't wanna be a wolf. Your philosophers might have wanted to.

Baobao wrote:People have their own point of view, I respect everypeople point of view.


You got it. You got it, my dear. Everybody has their own point of view, included you and me. So, in my opinion your philosophers were wrong. That's my opinion, and you should respect it.

Baobao wrote:I won't say it wrong because, I'm not so superior smart to judge it wrong.Thank You


Are you suffering from a mental disorder called inferiority complex?
C'mon, wake up :!:
Be confident :!:
Criticize everything you consider wrong :!:
Don't be a buffalo :!:

You should have known that some philosophers are not better than you. In some ways, you might be better that your admired philosophers. Don't you know that some philosophers committed suicide. They were hopeless. Do you want to copy or follow them?

Are they better?

Don't commit suicide my dear :!:

This life is so beautiful to enjoy.
There a lot of beautiful things in this world.
There are a lot of things to enjoy rather than committing suicide.

Be a man instead of a copycat.

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Postby baobao » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:40 am

You mean be yourself...Ohh..I got your idea..About right or wrong..I want to ask you something.I have read a book that said a debate can't judge it right or wrong,because there are always pro and contra right.Then when you say that homo homini lupus wrong isn't that you judge..haha...suicide..quite funny..By the way what is inferiority complex?You are an indonesian right?how old are you?Because me too i'm from jakarta too..nice to meet you my friend^^

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Postby Moody » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:31 am

By nature we humans are all animals and selfish, but by nurture we can be different and WE ARE!! Our environmental factors influence the behavior and traits of our life.


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