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We are all basically selfish.

Post by TalkingPoint » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:37 pm

We are all basically selfish.

selfish (adjective) = thinking mainly about one’s own personal pleasure or profit without thinking about other people

Do you agree with this statement? Do you think that most people think only about themselves? Or do we all care about other people as much as or more than ourselves?
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The Good balance

Post by The Good balance » Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:40 am

Of course we are Selfish.

But in the same time we are full with Love,Self-Sacrifice.

And i imagine our life is like performance on the steel-rope

Looking for Balance.

We know people accumulate all their life money,titles,property

But are Unhappy !

And other thoughtlessly giving all they have !

The Balance is difficult,i know !!!

selfish

Post by selfish » Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:27 am

"We are all basically selfish" is a truth, it's been believed by our human. But many people don't like being describled as selfishness by others.
There are two conditions:
One is that I am really selfish, I have never thought about anythings for others only for myself. And I am angry when I heard I was selfish and blamed by someone living around me. Because I think it is my right to care or not, why I need do it for you?
This kind of man will not be respected and accept by other people.

The other one is I think and do many things for you. But it's regarded as harmness, even to be said selfishness. In this condition, I will be unhappy or sad. The opinion to help others will be moved or disappeared.
So we should understand each other and take care more of others.
If we are all think so, we are not regarded as selfish man. :D :lol:

nina_zah

holidays are a waste of time

Post by nina_zah » Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:53 am

I do not think that holidays are a waste of time.In the summer holiday ,I stay at school preparing for my graduate exammination.I work hard and have obtained a lot,so I think I have a happy and a useful holiday .

Cassy

yes

Post by Cassy » Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:17 am

8) That's true. even when we do smth good for others we expect them to smth good for us. we do not say so but in our inner world we believe in it. there is no person in the world not being selfish!

blackcucumber2003

we are all selfish

Post by blackcucumber2003 » Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 am

likely any species of animal, man is basically selfish (It is nature). We always want to have what is best for and only do our mind on ourselves problems. People have cut down trees, hunted other animals... for their advantages.
And each person has his (or her) selfishness. I live for myself, my family and my country. All things we have done are for the sake of our lives.
But selfishness does not mean not to care anything, which is not good to you (but to the others). In a limit, you should aware what to do (which bring genaral advantage) or not. If so you will not be called "selfish man".

leo

I'm not selfish

Post by leo » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:13 pm

I'm not selfish, but some times s yes :lol: [/url][/list]
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jackie

We are all basically selfish

Post by jackie » Sat Oct 25, 2003 7:37 am

We are all basically selfish :oops: of crs, nobody can refuse what the nature has given us but please be always noticed that: We were born not to live for ourselves :(

Yesania96

Post by Yesania96 » Sat Oct 25, 2003 7:59 am

I think it depends on the situation and the mood.. :twisted:

micle222

is everybody selfish

Post by micle222 » Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:09 pm

everyone say i am the most unselfish man in the world,they say i just contribute,but no gain.actually what they say is not right,in my heart i have left out some field for selfish,when i do much for others,i also want to be repayed,if i give them too much,but they give me nothing,so there is the unbalance, so i think it is formal that all the people is selfish

annie

Re : is everybody selfish

Post by annie » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:41 pm

People is selfish in nature basically . But we live in a big community, sometime it is unexpected to encounter some trouble , if we give him/her a hand , maybe will make him/her better. for the time he or she only a word of "THANK" to you at most ,and not repay you anything . But next time when you meet trouble , maybe another body will help you generously . It's so natural and common seeing -A KIND OF GOOD NATURE CYCLE . So people's action can change the nature . " Try to do more for others , then you will get more repay from them ." Do'n't be too selfish .

Guest

Post by Guest » Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:22 am

no not all selfish .. :? i 'm not selfish but sometimes be a selfish..

who is the selfish ???

most of people want to be a better and better that's good .. but they want alone without any people .. and tha's fuelt..


ummmmmm .. sorry .. i don't know very well english .. and i have a lot of mistake .. but you can understand 8)

Chivalry

Post by Chivalry » Sun Nov 23, 2003 1:51 pm

Well if we are not living for ourselves then who are we living for. Life is a gift to us, ourselves as individuals. There is a balance I believe you must find to truly live the way you are supposed to.

To be overly selfish and not care about others is wrong. But then again to be selfless is also wrong. Being totally selfless will only result in you being bound to the will of others. A slave if you will, in some ways at least.

For example: It is a known fact among people who know me that I will go out of my way for anyone if they ask. My car is the best example. I will give anyone (of my friends) at say a social event who needs a lift home just that. On the first offer it was received with much thanks. Similarly the second time. After that people began to see my kindness as their right not merely something I have done for them. They even go so far as offering other people lifts in my car without asking me for a lift themselves, just assuming I will. They turn up to parties just assuming the I'll give them a lift. Invite me someplace, and later mention I am driving. When I can't they get offended, after all how dare I. I owe them the kindness.


So you see selflessness is also bad. Balance is what you need. Selfless and selfish acts are a part of nature. To be truly happy you go somewhere in between.

Maryam

Post by Maryam » Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:29 am

hello girls & guys.
mothers and fathers can not be selfish.
I am selfish with my family,especially with my mother
She gives me every thing,but I give her nothing.
.On the other hand, I am full with love And sacrifises with my husband & his family.
I dont like selfishnes ,so I am trying 2 not be selish.

galina

We are basically selfish

Post by galina » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:54 am

I think reasonable selfishness encouradges us to take care about us, our health, our mind, our fitness. It also helps to make a good asessment for ourselves and embolden for futher activity.
But, on the other hand, we should not forget about society, about people who live near us. Communication and ability to understand and help others are key factors in taking the right place in live.

hehe

selfish or altruistic

Post by hehe » Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:30 pm

are human bings selfish or altruistic??it is too hard to say clearly.human is a complex biology in the world,they live in their own houses but they can't love without others.in other words ,they depend on their fellow citizens.so we are sometimes selfish and sometimes altruistic.what the hell are the men like?? it is due to the situation.that is men is amid completely selfish and completely altruistic.

Virgee

Sure it's true. But why?

Post by Virgee » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:26 am

We are all hurt by a sin.And we like to be hurt, not to fight with the Bad in us. If this won't change we're not going to live in a better way. Don't look to Asia, Africa and so. The answer is in Europe. Christianity.

Lyuda

Are we selfish

Post by Lyuda » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:40 am

Maryam wrote:hello girls & guys.
mothers and fathers can not be selfish.
I am selfish with my family,especially with my mother
She gives me every thing,but I give her nothing.
.On the other hand, I am full with love And sacrifises with my husband & his family.
I dont like selfishnes ,so I am trying 2 not be selish.
I do really agree with you, we sometimes don't pay enough attention to our family. But we must always remember what our parents have done for us, that's why we must pay more attention to them and I advise you not to forget your parents and to spend more time with them.
REMEMBER: YOUR PARENTS LOVE YOU!!! :D

Katherine,Guest

Post by Katherine,Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:47 am

selfish wrote:"We are all basically selfish" is a truth, it's been believed by our human. But many people don't like being describled as selfishness by others.
There are two conditions:
One is that I am really selfish, I have never thought about anythings for others only for myself. And I am angry when I heard I was selfish and blamed by someone living around me. Because I think it is my right to care or not, why I need do it for you?
This kind of man will not be respected and accept by other people.

The other one is I think and do many things for you. But it's regarded as harmness, even to be said selfishness. In this condition, I will be unhappy or sad. The opinion to help others will be moved or disappeared.
So we should understand each other and take care more of others.
If we are all think so, we are not regarded as selfish man. :D :lol:

:) I agree with u:) we are all selfish in our life:) and it's has been created for us:)=people:) as for me I 'm selfish but only sometimes for example when I have bad spirit:)
and of crs we should take care of our relatives and friends:) and then they won't consider us to be selfish:) :D

Lera

Re: Re : Elaborate your deeds!

Post by Lera » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:49 am

annie wrote:People is selfish in nature basically . But we live in a big community, sometime it is unexpected to encounter some trouble , if we give him/her a hand , maybe will make him/her better. for the time he or she only a word of "THANK" to you at most ,and not repay you anything . But next time when you meet trouble , maybe another body will help you generously . It's so natural and common seeing -A KIND OF GOOD NATURE CYCLE . So people's action can change the nature . " Try to do more for others , then you will get more repay from them ." Do'n't be too selfish .
You know, I liked here 2 opinions about selfshness. Yours and the second one was about:... we must not also be selfless :!: . I think that there are some people that can abuse your kindness very much and this is also bad. Because these people can use your kindness in a wrong way and after that you can have an opinion that they only use you. And you know that to a decent person it'd be hard to realize that someone just use you. So, be just yourself and don't let your kindness be thrown away. :!:

Julia Guest

Re: Re : is everybody selfish

Post by Julia Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:49 am

annie wrote:People is selfish in nature basically . But we live in a big community, sometime it is unexpected to encounter some trouble , if we give him/her a hand , maybe will make him/her better. for the time he or she only a word of "THANK" to you at most ,and not repay you anything . But next time when you meet trouble , maybe another body will help you generously . It's so natural and common seeing -A KIND OF GOOD NATURE CYCLE . So people's action can change the nature . " Try to do more for others , then you will get more repay from them ." Do'n't be too selfish .
:roll: :P :P

I agree with you because our life can change us and in different situations we can act :D differently .But help people in difficult situation it is very beautiful :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: But how do you think people can change his or her opinion depends of situation

Guest

Re: Are we selfish

Post by Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:49 am

Lyuda wrote:
Maryam wrote:hello girls & guys.
mothers and fathers can not be selfish.
I am selfish with my family,especially with my mother
She gives me every thing,but I give her nothing.
.On the other hand, I am full with love And sacrifises with my husband & his family.
I dont like selfishnes ,so I am trying 2 not be selish.
I do really agree with you, we sometimes don't pay enough attention to our family. But we must always remember what our parents have done for us, that's why we must pay more attention to them and I advise you not to forget your parents and to spend more time with them.
REMEMBER: YOUR PARENTS LOVE YOU!!! :D

oh:) Luda u're a great orator:) go-gog -gogo:))
so, I just want to say that I agree with u:) we must remember our parents cause they are everything for usss;))

Gleb

Is everybody selfish or not?

Post by Gleb » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:52 am

Maryam wrote:hello girls & guys.
mothers and fathers can not be selfish.
I am selfish with my family,especially with my mother
She gives me every thing,but I give her nothing.
.On the other hand, I am full with love And sacrifises with my husband & his family.
I dont like selfishnes ,so I am trying 2 not be selish.
i dont fully agree with you, its really difficult to speak about selfish things in family. Its normal that your mother give everything to you and you give her nothing. It happens in every family but you should give your mother attention and your love, its the most important thing for parents.

its really difficult not to be selfish and i have an opinion that every person is selfish! So even if you if you try not to be selfish person its impossible to do it! Because any person like himself or herself the most! and it will be forever!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink: :wink: :wink:

Guest

Post by Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:53 am

Katherine,Guest wrote:
selfish wrote:"We are all basically selfish" is a truth, it's been believed by our human. But many people don't like being describled as selfishness by others.
There are two conditions:
One is that I am really selfish, I have never thought about anythings for others only for myself. And I am angry when I heard I was selfish and blamed by someone living around me. Because I think it is my right to care or not, why I need do it for you?
This kind of man will not be respected and accept by other people.

The other one is I think and do many things for you. But it's regarded as harmness, even to be said selfishness. In this condition, I will be unhappy or sad. The opinion to help others will be moved or disappeared.
So we should understand each other and take care more of others.
If we are all think so, we are not regarded as selfish man. :D :lol:

:) I agree with u:) we are all selfish in our life:) and it's has been created for us:)=people:) as for me I 'm selfish but only sometimes for example when I have bad spirit:)
and of crs we should take care of our relatives and friends:) and then they won't consider us to be selfish:) :D
Oh Kate :lol: I agree with you because when we have bad mood we can be selfish if you want you can answer me 8) 8)

Kate,guest

Re: yes

Post by Kate,guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:54 am

Cassy wrote:8) That's true. even when we do smth good for others we expect them to smth good for us. we do not say so but in our inner world we believe in it. there is no person in the world not being selfish!
I fully agree with Cassy. Still i have to add that selfishness is one of the inseparable parts of our main features of character,in fact it is even useful when used properly.How can we succed in our life if we aren't selfish? Love for oneself is selfishness. If you want to look good, to be respected and loved,then you are selfish. Bot selfishness is also smth that can easily be abused,because it is unlimited. Clever people will never hide their selfishness, but they will still never make fuss of it.

Katherine,Guest

Post by Katherine,Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:55 am

Yesania96 wrote:I think it depends on the situation and the mood.. :twisted:
I agree with u:) it's often depend on our mood:)))
we everything is all right u're not selfish
but when u have bad mood:( u're so selfish!!

Guest

Re: I'm not selfish

Post by Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:59 am

leo wrote:I'm not selfish, but some times s yes :lol: [/url][/list]

Do you know if people say that they are not selfish they are :D :D :D

Lyuda

Are we selfish

Post by Lyuda » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:00 am

selfish wrote:"We are all basically selfish" is a truth, it's been believed by our human. But many people don't like being describled as selfishness by others.
There are two conditions:
One is that I am really selfish, I have never thought about anythings for others only for myself. And I am angry when I heard I was selfish and blamed by someone living around me. Because I think it is my right to care or not, why I need do it for you?
This kind of man will not be respected and accept by other people.

The other one is I think and do many things for you. But it's regarded as harmness, even to be said selfishness. In this condition, I will be unhappy or sad. The opinion to help others will be moved or disappeared.
So we should understand each other and take care more of others.
If we are all think so, we are not regarded as selfish man. :D :lol:

You must not be too selfish and think only about yourself because people at last will turn away from you. You sould understand that if you do someone smth good that person would like you and he will try to do smth good for you. But if you do everything only for yourself people would'n like you and you'll stay alone, because there is no need in you. Reconsider your opinion

Lera

You are right!!!

Post by Lera » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:01 am

Chivalry wrote:Well if we are not living for ourselves then who are we living for. Life is a gift to us, ourselves as individuals. There is a balance I believe you must find to truly live the way you are supposed to.

To be overly selfish and not care about others is wrong. But then again to be selfless is also wrong. Being totally selfless will only result in you being bound to the will of others. A slave if you will, in some ways at least.

For example: It is a known fact among people who know me that I will go out of my way for anyone if they ask. My car is the best example. I will give anyone (of my friends) at say a social event who needs a lift home just that. On the first offer it was received with much thanks. Similarly the second time. After that people began to see my kindness as their right not merely something I have done for them. They even go so far as offering other people lifts in my car without asking me for a lift themselves, just assuming I will. They turn up to parties just assuming the I'll give them a lift. Invite me someplace, and later mention I am driving. When I can't they get offended, after all how dare I. I owe them the kindness.


So you see selflessness is also bad. Balance is what you need. Selfless and selfish acts are a part of nature. To be truly happy you go somewhere in between.
You know, I absolutely agree with your opinion that we must not be selfless. And I want to say that you are the one in this site who have mantioned this. I agree with U that there are some people who abuse our kindness and your instance about your car only can state that we must not be selfless. I know a lot of occasions when suddenly you become "needless" to other people and after that they treat you badly. And it is hard to understand "WHY?". So basically I agree with you!!! :idea: :idea: :idea:

Nastya

Post by Nastya » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:03 am

selfish wrote:"We are all basically selfish" is a truth, it's been believed by our human. But many people don't like being describled as selfishness by others.
There are two conditions:
One is that I am really selfish, I have never thought about anythings for others only for myself. And I am angry when I heard I was selfish and blamed by someone living around me. Because I think it is my right to care or not, why I need do it for you?
This kind of man will not be respected and accept by other people.

The other one is I think and do many things for you. But it's regarded as harmness, even to be said selfishness. In this condition, I will be unhappy or sad. The opinion to help others will be moved or disappeared.
So we should understand each other and take care more of others.
If we are all think so, we are not regarded as selfish man. :D :lol:
Well, I believe it is not too bad to take care of yourself. It is normal, it is a human nature. But I agree with you that people should take care of other people too. People usually like when somebody helps them sincerely. In responce to somebody's help they do the same, they help. And I would also like to add that people often like to feel that somebody needs them. And in some cases it helps, people become less selfish.

Katherine,Guest

Re: Is everybody selfish or not?

Post by Katherine,Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:05 am

Gleb wrote:
Maryam wrote:hello girls & guys.
mothers and fathers can not be selfish.
I am selfish with my family,especially with my mother
She gives me every thing,but I give her nothing.
.On the other hand, I am full with love And sacrifises with my husband & his family.
I dont like selfishnes ,so I am trying 2 not be selish.
i dont fully agree with you, its really difficult to speak about selfish things in family. Its normal that your mother give everything to you and you give her nothing. It happens in every family but you should give your mother attention and your love, its the most important thing for parents.

its really difficult not to be selfish and i have an opinion that every person is selfish! So even if you if you try not to be selfish person its impossible to do it! Because any person like himself or herself the most! and it will be forever!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink: :wink: :wink:


GleBBBaaaBBBaaa=)

Sasha

Re: Re : is everybody selfish

Post by Sasha » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:05 am

[quote="annie"]People is selfish in nature basically . But we live in a big community, sometime it is unexpected to encounter some trouble , if we give him/her a hand , maybe will make him/her better. for the time he or she only a word of "THANK" to you at most ,and not repay you anything . But next time when you meet trouble , maybe another body will help you generously . It's so natural and common seeing -A KIND OF GOOD NATURE CYCLE . So people's action can change the nature . " Try to do more for others , then you will get more repay from them ." Do'n't be too selfish .[/quote

I think that your opinion is right because it is really so.For example when a person has a trouble .he or she expects some help from other people,and it is very good when you get it. But it depends on people,because all people are different and sometimes they do not know if to take his or her help or not.My own opinion is that all people should not be selfish ,if they are ,they will never be able to get that balance they want.So help each other and do not think only about yourself! And try to help people even if you do not like it very much .Otherwise you will never get any help in response.

Gleb

selfish

Post by Gleb » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:06 am

Katherine,Guest wrote:
selfish wrote:"We are all basically selfish" is a truth, it's been believed by our human. But many people don't like being describled as selfishness by others.
There are two conditions:
One is that I am really selfish, I have never thought about anythings for others only for myself. And I am angry when I heard I was selfish and blamed by someone living around me. Because I think it is my right to care or not, why I need do it for you?
This kind of man will not be respected and accept by other people.

The other one is I think and do many things for you. But it's regarded as harmness, even to be said selfishness. In this condition, I will be unhappy or sad. The opinion to help others will be moved or disappeared.
So we should understand each other and take care more of others.
If we are all think so, we are not regarded as selfish man. :D :lol:

:) I agree with u:) we are all selfish in our life:) and it's has been created for us:)=people:) as for me I 'm selfish but only sometimes for example when I have bad spirit:)
and of crs we should take care of our relatives and friends:) and then they won't consider us to be selfish:) :D
I absolutely agrre with you! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Alison. guest

is everybody selfish

Post by Alison. guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:07 am

annie wrote:People is selfish in nature basically . But we live in a big community, sometime it is unexpected to encounter some trouble , if we give him/her a hand , maybe will make him/her better. for the time he or she only a word of "THANK" to you at most ,and not repay you anything . But next time when you meet trouble , maybe another body will help you generously . It's so natural and common seeing -A KIND OF GOOD NATURE CYCLE . So people's action can change the nature . " Try to do more for others , then you will get more repay from them ." Do'n't be too selfish .
:wink: I agree with Annie`s opinion, we should help people, give them a hand, but it`s obviously that if we do sth good to a good perso it`ll be valued, but if we do sth good to a bad person it`ll be wasted. :!:
:P We should care of ourselves more to prevent abusing with our generosity
:) and to give it to someone who is really worth it.Crs life is sometimes cruel & it can surprise you with some dissappointments. :!:
So be careful & live YOUR life. :P [/b]

Tanya,guest

Re: yes

Post by Tanya,guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:09 am

Cassy wrote:8) That's true. even when we do smth good for others we expect them to smth good for us. we do not say so but in our inner world we believe in it. there is no person in the world not being selfish!


Our selfishness is one of the main our features that helps us to survive today.I agree.But is it interesting to live all the time for ourselves? Don't you want to get pleasant emotions & feelings from people who surround you?I think we are selfish only because it's convinient for us,it's borring.

vicki

Post by vicki » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:10 am

The Good balance wrote:Of course we are Selfish.

But in the same time we are full with Love,Self-Sacrifice.

And i imagine our life is like performance on the steel-rope

Looking for Balance.

We know people accumulate all their life money,titles,property

But are Unhappy !

And other thoughtlessly giving all they have !

The Balance is difficult,i know !!!
I like the opinion about the good balance because when I was reading
that message I was surprised by the fact that your opinion is like mine!
To my mind, a person can not be absolutely selfless. But everyone should know the limit. I think we should help our nearest and dearest. One should first decide if a person is worth helping or not. Do not waste yourself on somebody who is not worth it! :wink:









Do not waste yourself on somebody who is not worth it.

Guest

Post by Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:11 am

Chivalry wrote:Well if we are not living for ourselves then who are we living for. Life is a gift to us, ourselves as individuals. There is a balance I believe you must find to truly live the way you are supposed to.

To be overly selfish and not care about others is wrong. But then again to be selfless is also wrong. Being totally selfless will only result in you being bound to the will of others. A slave if you will, in some ways at least.

For example: It is a known fact among people who know me that I will go out of my way for anyone if they ask. My car is the best example. I will give anyone (of my friends) at say a social event who needs a lift home just that. On the first offer it was received with much thanks. Similarly the second time. After that people began to see my kindness as their right not merely something I have done for them. They even go so far as offering other people lifts in my car without asking me for a lift themselves, just assuming I will. They turn up to parties just assuming the I'll give them a lift. Invite me someplace, and later mention I am driving. When I can't they get offended, after all how dare I. I owe them the kindness.


So you see selflessness is also bad. Balance is what you need. Selfless and selfish acts are a part of nature. To be truly happy you go somewhere in between.
Ok. I understand the opinion of Chivalry. I should say that she is quite kind person, but other people just abuse her kindness. Of course, it hurts. People should keep to the middle, do not be too radical. You must not be selish in relation to your closest people.Nobody, but them, will help you in difficult situations and nobody, but them, will take care of you.MIND THIS(of course, there are some exceptions). So everybody should decide himself whether he wants to be selfish or not. :)

yasmin

selfishness

Post by yasmin » Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:48 am

selfishness is urge from within each & every individual . but do u think selfishness word implies only to the money or the time & care u give to others.
v can't be selfish all the time b'coz it 's human nature our moods are different at times v will be happy ,sad , angry ,sober ,gentle & many more emotions r embibe within each of us.
when u r in good mood , u don't tend to be selfissh but u try to me helpful to others & would like to share ur happiness with everyone but if u r proudy person then u try to look upon other as inferior & u make people think that u r the only one who is happy in this world.
when ur in bad mood , u will not have any inclination towards helping others & u think u r the one who needs the help most .at the same time person can be selfish to himself by hiding his sorrows & worries with others
u can't say urself that i am not a selfish person if u do a charity work
but u should also take care of others feelings
i don't know whether i m correct in describing this topic if anybody has suggestions . please reply .

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Sometimes to be selfish it's necessary

Post by mickey_clauss » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:33 pm

I agree about we are basically selfish.
I believe that sometimes a person have to be selfish because he needs to obtain something.
For example, when you want to get a promotion in your job, you wont think about other people, only in yourself.
But, in my opinion, to be selfish depending of your age, the people who are around you and the achievements that you want to get.
However, it's very important take care about other people if you want that people think in yourself.
:wink:

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Post by Guest » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:16 am

People are selfish. Some are more selfish than others. That's all. The selfishness also depends on situations. One shouldn't be selfish when he/she can help others, but if the situation is out of his/her hands, then he/she shouldn't help. Not helping in that kinda situations is not being selfish. It's about he/she knows what he/she can do for others.

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This is the fact that we are all basically selfish.

Post by Judy2004 » Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:32 pm

I think people are basically selfish,which should not be regarded as poor quality.If you can not meet your demand, how can you give your food or money away to the poor? Those who can help the poor out must have earned surplus,which is in excess of their basical requirement.
Due to selfishness,people have invented and created so many things that they could use them to get free from physical work,simultaneously,to achieve the end,they destroyed the nature to some extent.This identifies selfishness as a double-sword.
Certainly,when we talk of basical selfishness,it is referred as an instinct response to the outside.From it,we can learn that when we deal with other people,we should respect the individuals,we had better put ourselves in the others' position,we ought not to ask too much from others.

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Post by vivian_1987 » Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:17 am

If selfishness is defined thinking mainly about one’s own personal pleasure or profit without thinking about other people . Then i do not believe that all humans are selfish. I believe that many people are very concerned about others and love is present in this world. A minority of people may be selfish but i believe the majority of people are loving. Sometimes we may resort to thinking only about ourselves when we have been hurt and we resort to self-protection. We live in a world full of different people where cooperation is vital. Therefore, we must think about others as well as ourselves

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Post by yuniu » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:15 am

Taking care of ourselves should be the priority lesson to everyone. If a person has no capability to take care of himself, how can we believe he is competent to balance his own interest with others. I believe a happy man delivers happiness to the neighborhood. A sad man spread pollution to the around.

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Post by Arale » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:43 am

All people are selfish. It is true. The difference is how selfish you are. Controlling your selfisfness is also an important principle to keep you from evils of life. I don't think people could absolutely rule it out so controlling it at the lowest level is really a great success.

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Post by crystalfrogw » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:32 am

we must admit human beings are selfish.....but when we realize it we sholud improve ourselves all the time.After all we are not saints........

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Post by intboy » Wed May 16, 2007 5:53 pm

Selfish is not exactly bad,as we must meet ourself needs firstly,then we can help others.

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Post by kathymimi » Thu May 31, 2007 2:27 pm

well, we are selfish in nature, but it doesn't mean this selfish will hurt others. unless our selfish hurts others, we should accept this personality.

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Post by Seafarer » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:14 pm

I had a weird example in my mind about this selfishness issue, but had never found the oppurtunity to post it, so thanks for this topic :P
I sometimes think that what if my boyfriend dies in an earthquake or any accident.Of course this means i will lose him but the person who is going to suffer cause of it , is ME! For that reason i never want this to happen.I guess this is a good example of my selfishness :roll:

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Post by Bambang » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:18 am

First of all, I would like to say that we are basically selfish. That’s true. But it's still in a comma not a period. Besides selfish creatures, we are also unselfish creatures. We are also helpful. We are the best creation that God has ever made. We are balanced creatures, full of positive and negative sides. That makes us better than other creatures in this universe.

God created angels with full of kindness and devil with full of badness. My point is as balanced creatures, we should be smart in managing ourselves. All we have to do is to minimize the negative natures and optimize or maximize the positive natures. So let's minimize our selfishness.
vivian_1987 wrote:If selfishness is defined thinking mainly about one’s own personal pleasure or profit without thinking about other people. Then I do not believe that all humans are selfish. I believe that many people are very concerned about others and love is present in this world. A minority of people may be selfish but I believe the majority of people are loving. Sometimes we may resort to thinking only about ourselves when we have been hurt and we resort to self-protection. We live in a world full of different people where cooperation is vital. Therefore, we must think about others as well as ourselves
I hope and believe that you are one of those who can be categorized as a smart person at maximizing the positive natures. I really appreciate you point of view my friend.
judy2004 wrote: …If you can not meet your demand, how can you give your food or money away to the poor? Those who can help the poor out must have earned surplus…
My friend, you don’t need to be rich to be able to give something to the poor. There are many many examples in this world when poor people can give something to the poorer ones. Giving something to someone is not about the wealth. It’s about heart and willingness. Sorry my friend, I didn’t mean to judge that you don’t have heart to do good deeds. I really hope that you are not in that category. Once again, please accept my apology if I am wrong.

Finally, my point is selfishness can be minimized if we have willingness to do that.

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Post by nightwish » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:24 am

Ok. I'll start from me, as I see myself I'm not a selfish person, but sometimes the human instinct plays a good part in our life and ecpecially when it's for our interests.
I'm not the best in this world, and I never prefered myself as the good person and the best one, I help all the people who need a help, I give the people who I really love more than I can give.

so all i wanna say that, it all depends on us to be selfish or not :!:

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Post by Bambang » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:10 pm

nightwish wrote:...so all i wanna say that, it all depends on us to be selfish or not :!:
Then choose not to be selfish my dear friend.
I hope and believe you will, won't you?

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Post by nightwish » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:12 pm

I'm not selfish dear! and thats for sure!

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Post by Bambang » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:26 am

Dear nightwish

I believe you are not.

Keep your unselfishness dear.

Psycologically speaking, it's not good for our mental health to be selfish.

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Post by TearHere » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:33 am

Yes, we are basically selfish. It's human nature. I won't claim that i'm not "selfish" because I become one at times. To me, it's my relationships with people that makes me control my selfishness. It's one of the few things I really appreciate- how love can actually overcome selfishness.

I mean, okay one can be selfish, but to be the "recipient" of the selfishness of other people is just mean. So in as much as I don't want people to be selfish to me, I also refrain from being selfish. :wink:

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Post by Bambang » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:46 am

TearHere wrote:Yes, we are basically selfish. It's human nature.:wink:
Supernaturally speaking, you are selfish my dear.

So, all you have to do is to tear up any selfishness in your deepest heart.

Supernaturally speaking, you can do it honey.
You can.
Just do it, then you'll see the result.

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YUppy..Selfish

Post by baobao » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:19 pm

TalkingPoint wrote:We are all basically selfish.

selfish (adjective) = thinking mainly about one’s own personal pleasure or profit without thinking about other people
Yes,indeed.Our basic instinct is absolutely selfish.According to what roman proverb by plautus in which then used by Thomas Hobbes:"Homo Homini Lupus"(Man is a wolf to man).Most of people must own desire to have more of personal pleasure or profit in order to satisfy their ego.For example,War was happened because the selfish ego that want to have more and more.Note:Not everypeople Selfish..

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Re: YUppy..Selfish

Post by Bambang » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:11 pm

baobao wrote: ...Homo Homini Lupus"(Man is a wolf to man).
Disagree :!:

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With respectfully

Post by baobao » Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:27 am

Bambang i,m not claiming that everypeople are homo homini lupus.But our basical instinct is selfish isn't it?For example,corruption is one of example.Corruption is on behalf our self-interest,but the impact of it harm people or institution whom being corrupt.Our basical instinct is homo homini lupus which it can be change.If there are not(type homo homini lupus), is this world is so perfect by ignoring the fact type of homo homini lupus is exist.I'm sorry if i'm wrong,but it is my point of view.Thank you

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Look at babies.

Post by Bambang » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:11 am

Dear Baobao,

All people are basically nice. Look at babies when they were just born. Cute huh :!:

Environment makes people become wolves.

Sorry my dear, your favorite philosophers were wrong.

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Post by baobao » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:54 pm

yes..first of all,i agree to say that babies is innocent and cute but unfortunately the proverbs point to man not babies.Second that environment is created by people too,so i think is so hypocrite to blame environment.That i believe basically we are selfish which can be change.And this proverbs appropriate to this topic that people basically is selfish.And one more to judge that proverbs right or wrong is not wise.You have no right to say the philosophers wrong.If all people agree with you that it's wrong it will be completely remove from proverbs list.People have their own point of view,i respect everypeople point of view.I won't say it wrong because,i'm not so superior smart to judge it wrong.Thank You

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Post by Bambang » Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:00 pm

baobao wrote:Yes..first of all, I agree to say that babies is innocent and cute but unfortunately the proverbs point to man not babies.
My dear, the baby is man. They are not animals.
The philosophers pointed at all men. "Men" here means men, women, boys, girls, included babies.
Baobao wrote:Second that environment is created by people too, so I think is so hypocrite to blame environment.
The question is :
are you a product of an environment or a heredity.
Baobao wrote:That I believe basically we are selfish which can be change.
We're basically nice and innocent. Just keep it. Don't change it. Don't be a wolf. I don't wanna be a wolf. Your philosophers might have wanted to.
Baobao wrote:People have their own point of view, I respect everypeople point of view.
You got it. You got it, my dear. Everybody has their own point of view, included you and me. So, in my opinion your philosophers were wrong. That's my opinion, and you should respect it.
Baobao wrote:I won't say it wrong because, I'm not so superior smart to judge it wrong.Thank You
Are you suffering from a mental disorder called inferiority complex?
C'mon, wake up :!:
Be confident :!:
Criticize everything you consider wrong :!:
Don't be a buffalo :!:

You should have known that some philosophers are not better than you. In some ways, you might be better that your admired philosophers. Don't you know that some philosophers committed suicide. They were hopeless. Do you want to copy or follow them?

Are they better?

Don't commit suicide my dear :!:

This life is so beautiful to enjoy.
There a lot of beautiful things in this world.
There are a lot of things to enjoy rather than committing suicide.

Be a man instead of a copycat.

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Post by baobao » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:40 am

You mean be yourself...Ohh..I got your idea..About right or wrong..I want to ask you something.I have read a book that said a debate can't judge it right or wrong,because there are always pro and contra right.Then when you say that homo homini lupus wrong isn't that you judge..haha...suicide..quite funny..By the way what is inferiority complex?You are an indonesian right?how old are you?Because me too i'm from jakarta too..nice to meet you my friend^^

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Post by Moody » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:31 am

By nature we humans are all animals and selfish, but by nurture we can be different and WE ARE!! Our environmental factors influence the behavior and traits of our life.

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Post by iamvitaly » Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:57 pm

I think that it's true! It's rule of ourtimes. We can't live without this strain. But degree of this is different for others...

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Re: Respectfully

Post by Bambang » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:37 am

baobao wrote:I have read a book that said a debate can't judge it right or wrong,because there are always pro and contra right.
Nothing's wrong with debate. The most important thing is how we react to a debate properly. A debate can sharpen our understanding about something.


Nice to meet you too my fellow Indonesian.

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Post by himizi » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:05 am

I can't agree with you.

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Post by hedwig14 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:24 am

i believe we are. Now, those people who'd react hard on this, ponder: For once in your life, didn't you think of saving your own neck before others.
It's human nature. We people tend to think of ourselves first before we try to do something good to others.
But human as we are, there are still those times we we become selfless and think of others. I hope there are still people who are like that. I can't guarantee myself all te time. ^__^

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Post by Alfabeto » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:20 pm

When people say that "we're all basically selfish" they are equivocating, or confusing, different meanings of the word "selfish". Of course we are all concerned with our own survival, but man is a very weak animal on his/her own. We all depend on other people. So there is a clear social dimension to all of us. We would not exist as individuals, as persons, without a group or a society. And social life requires that we look after the interests of other people too and not just ourselves. So we're basically unselfish too. If you treated other people like ~ all the time, they would treat you badly too, and eventually you would die in total isolation.

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Re: We are all basically selfish.

Post by keenlearner » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:31 am

Hi there,

I think it is true but we should find a balabce between ourselves and others. indeed, I am trying to be good with others and deal with them as the same way that I eccept them to do in return...We are really selfish but we can overcome it....
:lol:

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Re: We are all basically selfish.

Post by herione » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:42 pm



becuase we just thinking about our self and after the other



so we are selfish

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Re: We are all basically selfish.

Post by sweethuman » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:20 am

I agree with you

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Re: We are all basically selfish.

Post by ArnauEstanyol » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:57 am

Yes. We are selfish in essence. I think that the basis of our civilization is sustained by two main columns: selfishness and sex.

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Re: We are all basically selfish.

Post by Elisa » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:49 pm

Yes, I think we are basically selfish but the question is :" how much selfish are you"?

There are people totally selfish and other reasonably selfish.

I think to be a reasonably one.

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Re: We are all basically selfish.

Post by hilaryprk » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:21 pm

Human beings are naturally animals, selfish is a human concept. So the technical answer to your question is yes we are naturally selfish.
But,its really about the survival instinct, all animals are selfish when it comes to survival, procreation and nurture are close to it in dominance of instinct though, that's why most humans and animals protect their young fiercely and why we are all driven to have sex frequently.

So, I believe the hardest thing for humans to overcome is pride and selfishness.

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