Plagiarism is THEFT

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Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Joe » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:06 pm

Copying text from other websites and pasting it into these forums without citing the source is unacceptable. Please add a note at the end of any copied text to give the source of the text. This is not mentioned in the EC rules because it is a matter of legality and common courtesy. It is hoped that EC members will not be so crass as to plagiarize in future. Any that do will be liable to have their membership suspended. Thank you for your co-operation.

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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Tora » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:16 am

Oh, Thank you! Finally!

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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Krisi » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:27 am

Thank you Mr. Josef.
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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Oriani » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:25 am

I remember that I had to give a master class about Plagiarism two semesters ago in my college. What it annoys me a lot is that some of my classmates write essays, paper works; and they copy and paste form internet or books and they say they have the whole credit. I cannot stand it.. So, I am glad that this point has come out in the forum.

Thanks, Sr Josef.

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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Vega » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:32 am

Josef wrote:"If the cap fits, wear it."
I like this saying. :)

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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Dixie » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:27 am

Oriani wrote:I remember that I had to give a master class about Plagiarism two semesters ago in my college. What it annoys me a lot is that some of my classmates write essays, paper works; and they copy and paste form internet or books and they say they have the whole credit. I cannot stand it.. So, I am glad that this point has come out in the forum.

Thanks, Sr Josef.
My older students had to hand in a paper on a book we had read last semester. 7 of them handed in a paper directly copied from Internet sites, not even changing a comma! Obviously they got a D, and their final mark went down a lot!

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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by shokin » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:19 am

I heard that : Even with telling the sources we don't have right to copy-past the integrality (or even a part) of a text. Not sure about it.



Definitively a great question (ethical or economical or political or social motivations ? a song is not a mp3, which is not show, which is not a pdf, which is not a pharmaceutical product, which is not GMO, which is not a book, which is not a clone, which is not me... :lol: ), these author rights.





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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Vega » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:13 pm

shokin wrote:I heard that : Even with telling the sources we don't have right to copy-past the integrality (or even a part) of a text. Not sure about it.
I heard something like that concerning books. here's an example:

No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, without prior permission in writing of ...

You must not circulate this book in any other binding or cover and you must impose this same condition on any acquirer.


As to web resources I agree with the majority here that by crediting the author you can post that here.

mentarget wrote:Thanks Joseph. Let those who steal ideas or information stop doing it, you guys can see that it is now an unwriting EC rule.
If an idea does not have a legal representative I think it can be counted as free source. It like a proverb you know. :mrgreen:

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by saying that it doesn't imply I steal ideas.

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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by Oriani » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:18 pm

Dixie wrote:
Oriani wrote:I remember that I had to give a master class about Plagiarism two semesters ago in my college. What it annoys me a lot is that some of my classmates write essays, paper works; and they copy and paste form internet or books and they say they have the whole credit. I cannot stand it.. So, I am glad that this point has come out in the forum.

Thanks, Sr Josef.
My older students had to hand in a paper on a book we had read last semester. 7 of them handed in a paper directly copied from Internet sites, not even changing a comma! Obviously they got a D, and their final mark went down a lot!
And they don't even remove this " edit".. "more information" , "click here" ; hahahaha.. it's funny sometimes, because I have classmates that they really think they are "MASTERS"; They were caught with plagiarism...!!! By the way, I wrote about that in the link I posted in Shazzan's topic:-) :)

Keep on putting D's :twisted:

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Re: Plagiarism is THEFT

Post by MissLT » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:22 am

Dixie wrote: My older students had to hand in a paper on a book we had read last semester. 7 of them handed in a paper directly copied from Internet sites, not even changing a comma! Obviously they got a D, and their final mark went down a lot!
Pretty generous of you, then. Here we get suspended for plagiarism.

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