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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:56 pm

Dear Kami,

How are you honey? Please accept this big friendly KISS as a token of my apology for being late in replying to your post.

Oh thanks again for your kind suggestion on perfumes. I'll try all of them for sure, since my sweet Kami has smelled them; I wanna smell what she has smelled! :-D

Oh Kamiiii, sorry for introducing ridiculous topics. You know, I'm sometimes silly and say silly things! :-(

Butterflies and a collection of dried ones! Emmm, I had never thought of that actually. It's amusing for me to see such collections but I don't think I tend to have them myself! No I don't enjoy watching dead dried insects! I prefer to enjoy them alive in the nature. I love butterflies and I enjoy seeing different kinds of them. Oh they are angels from heaven flying in the earth's sky! Watching them flying over flowers is one of my pleasures. :-)

I do love to write more to you but at the present nothing else comes to my mind!

Best wishes,
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:02 pm

Hi Kamelia,
I saved the information in my cell phone, never payed attention to the memo file in the cell phone , Unlike many people I don't play with my cell phone, I never send a Bluetooth so far ,not install the software of Telephone bank. I don't like to meet people who are playing with the cell phone, or put the headset into the ears.
listen to music 4 hours per day, So many channels, so little worth watching, sitting in front of the mirror non stop. How much is the life span, the walk of life have been changed. The corruption increased because money is not divided correctly, people who live high life and dog life both been corrupted; the poetry of survival is not made up of consolations. This is the present belles-lettres. Where are the aesthetic qualities? The values are faked , everyone should keep up with the joneses if he wants to survive

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:43 pm

Harry up my friend, I am afraid of being dead ,because every person leaves a mark, good or bad, in the society he lives. We do not remember people by their names but by the imprints they leave on our memories. A politician is known for his political works, a reformer is known for the changes he brought for the betterment of the society, a sportsperson is known for his talent, medals and trophies, etc.

Hitler was known for the wars and the destruction he caused. We remember Mahatma Gandhi as a man of non-violence.
But when I die nobody remember me.

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mohsen

The great poet Saedi say . you do something ,before you lose your life ,when you are alive and you are able to do

Ay ke dastat miresad kari bekon
pish az aun kaz toe nayayad hich kar

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby helkady » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:17 pm

Hi everyone , I'm so happy to communicate with you all, and share with you my thoughts in a loud voice.Do you know that this is the thired time to chat with any one during my whole life, first and second was in this great site.I'm Egyptian , married , have two babes , work in Insurance company.I like watching English movies but while I'm watching I'm reading the subtitle,this days I'm trying watching without reading subtitle , but do you know when I'm watching the movie if I find the movie is interesting I start reading the subtitle.

I have a big problem that I want to share with you all , I'm sure you will helpe me to solve by give me some valuable advice.I have been interesting of learning English for more than twenty years and still weak in writing , listening ,talking . I don't know what why . I'm depressed :-(

If anyone have some good advice please tell me because I want to be better .

Thank you for wasting your time

Wating to hear from you soon

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby [amal] » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:07 am

Oh Hi Helkady,

How are you?

Welcome to this thread, I am very happy that there is another Arab person here! By the way, I am Amal from Damascus, Syria. Oh you can't believe how much I love Egyptian people and love their accent, they are really very kind and helpful people..

I have some friends from Egypt and now I hope you will be among them. :)

My friend, you asked for an advice, although I am a learner just like you but I can tell you what helped me a lot and made me improve my English:

First of all, I started to lesson to some simple audio lessons called " Effortless English Lessons", the teacher is really great and his way of teaching is new, simple and funny.

I downloaded all the lessons to my cell phone and started to hear them whenever I had free time..
-You can look for the lessons on Google-

After that, I started to feel more confidence so I tried to make some friendships with foreign people and chatted with them in English. In fact, that helped me alot with improving my spelling. Above that, I can't forget that I'd made some great friendships..

Moreover, I can't deny that this thread is the main factor which make me stay in touch with the English language because I feel here that this is my home and no matter how far my distance was, I have to return to it. My heart is with my friends here, We are like a family!

So if you were busy and don't have time to chat or to listen to English, writing here is the best way cause you are always welcomed, whenever you want and you can speak about whatever you want..

Oh, I love movies too and of course most of the time I read the subtitle but you know, in the last period I changed, something forced me to just listen cause I was watching a looooooong series then suddenly it had displayed on the TV but I really wanted to know its end so I just went to the net and saw episodes but guess what :!!: They were without translation!! :!!: Oh my god! :~: In the beginning it was a little bit hard for me to follow them but after some time, I used to it and started to get what they were talking about. Of course, there were some hard words for me but it was good and I amazed that I could understand them! Wow! {-:

So forget all learning method and just do like me and watch a long series {-; that will help you the most. Hehe :lol: -just kidding-

Emm, I know that my post isn't that helpful for you but it was just to say welcome and let you enjoy your time, dear, don't be depressed, I am sure you will be good in English, you just need to enjoy learning it and have some patience!

Hope to read more from you.

Best wishes,
Amal

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WELCOME!

Postby behnam » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:30 am

Hi Helkady,

Hello and a very warm and friendly welcome to this thread. Thank you very much for joining us. I am Behnam(male) from Iran, married and have got two babies. They are twins and boys. You can find some other information about my on the first page of this thread.

In replying to your request; asking for some advice on improving English skills such as listening, speaking, reading and writing, my dear and kind friend Amal has written her own successful experience which is very useful. I am also writing my own experience. I am not advising you, sine your English is excellent and you don't need any advice actually. What you need is an effective method.

First of all, you should be determined to make progress in English skills. Determination, motivation, love, etc. whatever you call it, is the first step. As your post implies, you have got sufficient motivation. In this step, what you must do is keeping yourself always motivated. This is essentially important for learners to keep themselves determined and motivated all the time. Not only in learning a new language, but also in all aspects of life, when a goal is set, a plan is needed to achieve the goal, and it is necessary to keep the plan!

The second point is knowing the process of learning. When it comes to learning a language, our brain works like an electrical circuit. In a circuit, there are input, processing, and output. In languages learning, listening is input, speaking is output! If you want to speak well, you should(must) listen well. If you want to write well, you should(must) read well. In other words, Attentive listening and careful reading lead to fluent speaking and effective writing respectively.

The third point is being precise and caring about accuracy all the time. In some terms, learning a language is similar to building a house. From the basic foundation stone, it is vitally important to be careful with the principals. For instance, using right materials with enough strength and quality, in particular, putting the bricks on each other rightly. Otherwise the building will be like the Tower of Pisa in Italy! When using a word, we must know the proper prepositions, adjectives, verbs, etc. which go with that word, the common collocations(the words which often are used together such as 'make a mistake', 'do homework', 'do exercise', 'up and down', 'Commit a crime' etc.). We must also know the correct structures. Therefore, the grammar is vitally important in writing skill. For this purpose, I strongly suggest using an English-To-English dictionary. Never use English-To-Arabic dictionary! I do recommend 'Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English' to you and to all learners. In addition to that, you should study 'Grammar in use', and 'Collocations in use'. Both are useful. I've got their PDF files. I can send them and some other useful ebooks to you if you give me your email address.

The fifth point is exposing yourself to the English language. This means being involved in it all the time; living with it; taking every opportunity to develop English skills. Chatting in English can be very useful.

The sixth point is simplicity. Be as simple as possible! When you write a sentence, read it again and ask yourself whether there is another word or easier structure to make it look a little simple. I personally do believe in plain English.

Those rules may look difficult for you, but don't worry, little by little they will become habits.

If you need further explanation just let me know. I hope this helps!

All the best,
Behnam, 6 March, 2013



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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby davies » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:09 am

Learning together was really a good idea.In Finland country i seen a valmennuskeskus or training center and different kind of courses and i remember learning with other people and find new friends.Well lets learn together with this.

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby helkady » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:32 am

:-P
Hi my Dearest friends Amal and Behnam!

You can't imagine how I'm feeling right now , I'm so delightful that you replied to me. when I started writing here I thought that nobody will reply , but I Put in my mind that if nobody reply to me I'll keep writing , maybe I'll write about my thoughts in words ,so thank you both very much {-:

Dear my friend Amal
Your message is very kind and worm , I want to ask you about you and your family are you ok??

I know that you have a very bad situation in your country because you have some kind of war , my heart with you, hope you and your family are safe, take care of yourself {-:

When I'm watching what is happening in your country I feel very sad :-( because I were in Damascus in the year 2001 I was living at Elsham hotel in a business trip,your country is realy beautiful you people are very kind ,beautiful and helpful ,I spend there a memorable week I was so happy there although I was alone. Hope your country get well soon :-)

Thak you for sharing me your experience about how do you start learning English , it really helped me a lot .

Dear my friend Behnam

Thank you very much for your advices , I read your first message it was on Friday January 13 , 2012, I know I will benefit from you {-: as you are a teacher , from your writing I know you are a very good teacher ,patient , love to teach,and I admire you because when nobody answered you you kept writing .

Dears Amal and Behnam

I want to write to you more but do you know that this message took more than three hours to write :!!:
Do you think I will become better in writing ??
we will see .

Thank you again

See you soon {-:

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby grincas » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:28 pm

hi dear friends, I hope that you all fine.As you know I m the new member of this thread.Unfortunately I couldn t send any messages for a long time,I have just sent a messages but it hasn t been seen in here.I don t know what s the matter?Anyway,I want to give short information about me. I graduated from English Language Department.I studied in Cyprus.Then, because of some health problems I couldn t have applied my job until now.I mean four years passed after my graduations:( Nowadays,I m studying on an exam which gives me opportunity to be a teacher in a government school,so I hope I will be in a place which I deserve
Next time I will give short and interesting information about my city What a fabulous city where I live! By the way I live in Turkey:)
See you next time
Note:waiting your reply :)waiting your hello:)
Best wishes Grincas

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:35 am

Hi Davies,

Welcome to this place. Thank you very much for putting comment here. Learning together always gives better results. Join us and let's learn together! Write about something. Choose a topic and write an essay.

I like to hear from you soon.

All the best,
Behnam, 7 March 2013

P.S. Less than 20 hours is left to my important exam. :lol:

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Postby behnam » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:55 am

Hi Helkady,

Thanks for replying. Your English is excellent, and you communicate well, but there are still rooms for improvement. Take a careful attention to the grammar. In writing, grammar is extremely important. As I've mentioned in my previous post to you, when writing a sentence, read it over and over again to see if you can write it simpler, and also check the structure by using a dictionary. You will find this boring, but little by little you will get used to it.

For example, 'advice' is an uncountable noun. So, it is not correct to say, 'give me a advice' or 'thank you for your useful advices'! If you look 'advice' in a dictionary you will see many interesting points about it. For example, 'Let me give you a piece of advice. Wear a blue suit to the interview.'. What a nice sentence! This sentence not only helps us with the grammar, but also introduces us a scientific or physiological point which is effective and impressive in interviews. By using an English-To-English dictionary, you will kill many birds with one stone!

Don't worry about the speed of writing. In this step, just try to care about accuracy. After some days, you will write at a normal speed. Don't forget 'practice makes perfect'!

Would you mind writing about yourself(like your job, your family, your country, likes and dislikes, ..)? I am waiting to hear more from you.

All the best,
Behnam, 7 March, 2013

P.S. Less than 20 hours is left to my important exam. :lol:


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Welcome!

Postby behnam » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:10 am

Hi my kind friend Grincas,

Thank you very much for putting comment in this thread. Actually, I was waiting for your posts. I've missed you terribly. How are you? Where are you? Nothing from you for ages!

I've replied to your posts and have said a very warm and friendly welcome to you. Check the previous pages. However, let me say Hello and welcome to this thread again.

I love your country, its people and culture, since there are some similarities between us. We have got many things in common.

I wish you success in your exam. I am sure you will pass it successfully.

Please write about yourself, your country, your nice city and all things you like to share with us. I really love hearing about you.

All the best,
Behnam, 7 March, 2013

P.S. Less than 20 hours is left to my important exam. :lol:


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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:52 pm

Dear Behnam,

Tomorrow morning you're going to take PhD exam and you can't imagine how happy I am for you. I've always been waiting to hear you're going to continue your studies and when you announced you were going to take it this year, I got so happy.

Dear, you truly deserve to be called doctor Behnam; you are already a doctor in Physics, you know as much as a doctor should know. I'm sure your knowledge is even more than many other Physics doctors' in Iran. :-)

Like always, I admire your determination and hard-work. You have tried your best and certainly you will do your best tomorrow.


Dear Behnam, know that Elham's fingers are crossed for you till you finish your exam.I hope you calmness and focus.

I wish sprinkles of luck will be showered upon you while you are taking the test. :-)

Trusting God won't make the mountain smaller but it will make climbing easier. Hope you will be able to climb tomorrow's mountain successfully. :-)


*ta lahzeye akhar baratun doa mikonam. Ishalla hamechi ali pish bere.

****Shireeeeeeeeeee Behnaaaaaaaaaaam****

Good luck, good luck,goodluck

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Postby Elham » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:43 am

My dear Amal,

How are you honey? Where are you? What are you doing? Oh Amal I'm gradually feeling jealous of this crocheting stuff. It's taking my place in your heart. :-(

Oh honey, can you guess how exactly I'm feeling now, being that late in replying your very kind post to me? I'm sooooooooo ashamed that I don't know what to say. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Several times I started writing to you but sth happened and stopped me, please forgive me honey. You know that I'm not a careless person, I do care about such things very much.

Your bad habit is that you stick with your goal and hard-work, good for you! It's not bad at all, but just be more careful with your health too. Honey you have a whole lifetime ahead to crochet as much as you want, don't make yourself tired with it. Do it as much as you enjoy it and as long as it doesn't hurt you.
My bad habit? Emmm..... I have lots of bad habits. Oh let's forget about it, It'll spoil Elham in your eyes, if I list my bad habits here! :lol: :lol: :lol:

You had another question for me, about people's talents. Nice question. It's always been one of my concerns too! I always ask myself," what is that I'm very good at? What is that talent in which I can shine and through that I can be benevolent to other people?"

It's said that every person has certainly a special talent in something and that one of our responsibilities as a human is to find out our talent and develop it. I always wonder why some people find their interests and talent very soon and start their immediate hard-work on it while for some others years go on, yet they're doing trail and error to discover it! Woooofffff..... :?: :roll:

Hope to see you soon on net,

Kiss,
Eli

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Postby Elham » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:56 am

Dear Heldkady,

Welcome here dear,
Reading your posts I feel your warmness and kindness. You seem to be a warm-blooded person. Emmm, you may be a girl!? :lol:

Why don't you write more about yourself to us? About your gender, age, job...
Let us know more about you and don't be worried. Just write and be sure " practice makes perfect".
I learn a lot through reading, try to read more and more. Fortunately,the internet provides us a lot of great sources to read and learn through. :-)

Hope to hear more from you,

Elham

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Amoure » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:59 am

Dear Dr. Behnam joon;
How are YOU?

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Postby [amal] » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:44 am

Hi Helkady,

How are you?

Oh come on, why don't we answer you??! Behnam had created this thread just to learn and communicate with others and everybody is welcomed here. You are one of us now!

Thanks for your reply and for all the nice words about me. Thank you too for your wishes. {-:

Yeah, I understand your feeling, my country was great and we were happy. Who knows Syrian people can understand how peaceful they are. But now we are just like you, we just watch what is going on and still can't believe that those horrible things are happening here! :!!: :-( :-(
Whyyyy???!! Do we deserve that???????! Why do we fight and for what?! Killing each other has become our only solution, isn't that silly?!

The big countries are just trying to eat us as if we were like a piece of cake! :-x 8-) :-(

You know, spring is my favorite season, we used to go to the fields since I love seeing the green ground and walk in the nature for hours but this year.. We can't go anywhere and I can't see the blossom trees. Uh ! :-(

Let's stop speaking about that because I was really angry today, so if I started speaking now, I wouldn't end till tomorrow! :-(

So tell me, what is your favorite season and why?

Dear, last time when I wrote my first post to you, I was a little bit tired and sleepy since I wrote it at 3 or 4 AM! :shock: Therefore, I forgot to ask you about your favorite kind of movies and which movie you love the most and you don't get bored of watching it constantly, would you recommend some good movies for me?

Thanks for being here and hope to read more from you.

Best wishes,
Amal

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Dangerously Disappointing Exam!

Postby behnam » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:46 pm

Hi Elham,

Thank you very much for encouraging me. You are very kind. Dear Elham, the exam was horrible. The questions were not standard. All in all, the exam looked dangerously difficult to me. Actually, I did my best, but I am not satisfied with it at all. I couldn't manage the time wisely. I am very sad for spending too much time on solving questions! Time was my biggest enemy. You know, in Physics the questions must be solved. It is not possible to answer to a question without solving it. Well, solving a problem takes a lot of time! I don't know what was wrong with me! I am not satisfied with the exam, although I did my best. I solved the problems which I were able to solve, but I couldn't see all the questions! }: }:

The exam room was terrible. The hanging clock on the wall was slept! It didn't work. An old lady who was responsible for controlling us wasn't wearing watch. They didn't allow us to take mobile phones to the building, so nobody around me was wearing watch! There was no water to drink, but a long line for using toilet, and a very very long line for buying sandwich for lunch! I couldn't find a cup of tea to drink! I was really dying for a cup of tea. }:

The students around me were quite stupid! The boy next me was killing the time, sitting and looking at the questions while I was solving some of them. The boy made me crazy so that after the exam I shouted at him and said angrily, "What are you doing here? You were making me angry by your careless to the exam." He said he just answered to some easy questions!!! I guess he has better chance than me! :lol:

I don't know who sets(makes) those irrelevant silly questions! Well, in every module, there are some basic rules, principles, subjects to cover which are standard in all universities around the world. For example, when it comes to Mechanics, Newton's laws are the foundation of it. It can be said that Mechanics is concerning mostly the Newton's three laws from high school until graduation from university. For example, F=ma is Newton's second law. Students start using this formula at high school by considering some simple forces and one-dimensional accelerators. At university, it is still F=ma, but the forces are more complicated and the accelerators are two or three-dimensional in different cordinates. Therefore, when sitting for an exam about Mechanics, it is normal to see some questions about that important matter. What would happen to someone who was expert at solving the problems which are about his field of study if s/he saw something irrelevant? }:

Oh my God! It makes me mad. Who are those question makers??? Don't they teach Physics? Can they solve those questions themselves? I am absolutely sure that they know nothing! I am one the best students in Iran when it comes to Physics. I know professors and universities. I am not a blind person. I am in a position to judge on this area! I believe there is something wrong!

Undoubtedly, the policy of Measurement Organization of Iran isn't clear. Nobody knows what they are searching for. Do they want to measure the number of things I don't know? Well, there are billion billions things I don't know! Do they search for some careless people who sit and enjoy eating chocolate and cakes in exam time? You know what, hardworking people like me expect themselves to answer some questions. They do it, but in many cases they answer wrongly, because answering to irrelevant questions is like taking risk. You are not one hundred percent sure about the answer. Consequently, you receive negative marks while silly rivals get zero. Zero is larger than a negative number! {-: Imagine a farmer and Physics student sit for PhD exam. I believe, the farmer would have more chance than the student to be accepted, since the farmer knows nothing about Physics, then s/he sits doing nothing confidently, whereas poor students tries hard, makes mistakes, and gets negative! According to the result, the farmer knows Physics! Don't take this as a joke, unbelievably, it happens in our society! }: }:

Anyway, I am not satisfied with the exam, and I am planing for the next year exam! However, I don't know what to do. I don't know whether I study something or try to get the policy or logic of Measurement Organization. Even though I try and get the logic or policy this year, it won't work for the next year since it isn't stable! It changes! How terrible! }: }:

All the best,
Behnam, 9 March, 2013


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Thanks!

Postby behnam » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:49 pm

Hi Amoure,

How are yo? I hope you are fine. Thank you for following this thread and suing sweet words to call me.

Why don't you write long posts? I love to here more from you.

All the best,
Behnam, 9 March, 2013


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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby helkady » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:35 pm

Dear my friends

Behnam, Amal and Elham

You can't Imagine what I fell when I have free time to write to you , I fell so happy that we will communicate .

Thank you so much for being in touch {-:

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby grincas » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:06 pm

hi dear friends,big hugs from Turkey.As I promised this time I will give some informations about my city .It is called Adıyaman where has a gorgeous historical place.
There are big statues in there which are called mount Nemrut.It is called as mount because these statues are built on the mount Nemrut .The mountain lies north of Kahta, near Adıyaman. In 62 BC, King Antiochus I Theos of Commagene built on the mountain top a tomb-sanctuary flanked by huge statues (8–9 m/26–30 ft high) of himself, two lions, two eagles and various Greek, Armenian, and Iranian gods, such as Hercules-Vahagn, Zeus-Aramazd or Oromasdes (associated with the Iranian god Ahura Mazda), Tyche, and Apollo-Mithras. These statues were once seated, with names of each god inscribed on them. The heads of the statues have at some stage been removed from their bodies, and they are now scattered throughout the site.
Above all,the most attractive side of the mount Nemrut is rising of the sun. The rising of the sun is very interesting.After you climb to there wait for rising of the sun .The scene turns to magic! while the sun begin to rise slowly,you feel that you are above the sun. I have had this experience.Really it was fascinating. :!!:
See you next time if you reply my post I will be happy.Hold it in your mind your each response will give me courage to share my experience....
Love you all, best wishes Grincas


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