Hi,
In the TV. show "The Flash" EP.01 S.01, and when the detectives went to arrest "Madron" , they say - according to the subtitles:
"I'm not saying Mardon is alive, but if he was, this is the last place him and his brother hid out."
I can't figure out what is meant by this is the last place him and his brother hid out., Is that grammatically correct?
A question about the TV. show "The Flash"
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Re: A question about the TV. show "The Flash"
It's not grammatically correct but many native speakers do speak like that. It should be:EnglishLover wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:27 am"I'm not saying Mardon is alive, but if he was, this is the last place him and his brother hid out."
"I'm not saying Mardon is alive, but if he was, this is the last place he and his brother hid out."
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Re: A question about the TV. show "The Flash"
Thank you very much, but why "him" instead of "he" ? Is it common to use "him" as a subject?
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The object "him" is not grammatically correct. As a subject of the verb "hide out" it should be "he".
I wouldn't say it's common, but many native speakers do make this mistake. Perhaps they get confused by the presence of "his brother". In the same way that people wrongly say "Me and my wife went out last night", but would never say "Me went out last night".
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Re: A question about the TV. show "The Flash"
Thank you for clarifying the "him" issue, but apart from this, I still think that the correct sentence should be;Joe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 amThe object "him" is not grammatically correct. As a subject of the verb "hide out" it should be "he".
I wouldn't say it's common, but many native speakers do make this mistake. Perhaps they get confused by the presence of "his brother". In the same way that people wrongly say "Me and my wife went out last night", but would never say "Me went out last night".
I'm not saying Mardon is alive, but if he was, this is the last place him and his brother would hide out in
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Yes, that is possible grammatically, and maybe the subtitles are just badly translated.
But it's also possible that what he means is that if Mardon is still alive, then we have found their last hiding place (the last place where they hid out).
I don't know what The Flash is or the quality of the production, so you have to decide yourself whether you trust the subtitles.
There are a couple of other little niggles such as "if he was" vs "if he is", but frankly without knowing the full context we could go round in circles for ever on this one.
But it's also possible that what he means is that if Mardon is still alive, then we have found their last hiding place (the last place where they hid out).
I don't know what The Flash is or the quality of the production, so you have to decide yourself whether you trust the subtitles.
There are a couple of other little niggles such as "if he was" vs "if he is", but frankly without knowing the full context we could go round in circles for ever on this one.
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Re: A question about the TV. show "The Flash"
Thank you, Joe,Joe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:07 am Yes, that is possible grammatically, and maybe the subtitles are just badly translated.
But it's also possible that what he means is that if Mardon is still alive, then we have found their last hiding place (the last place where they hid out).
I don't know what The Flash is or the quality of the production, so you have to decide yourself whether you trust the subtitles.
There are a couple of other little niggles such as "if he was" vs "if he is", but frankly without knowing the full context we could go round in circles for ever on this one.
The subtitles fit exactly to the speech.