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Grammar question that makes sense, but I dont know why

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Good day all. I posted this in r/grammar as well but I found this reddit thread and thought maybe this would be a better place to post it.

This is my first post here, but Im lost in understanding how to explain two things that I was asked by a non-native English speaker friend. In my head the answers makes sense, but I dont know why. I tried Googling it by typing in the sentences, but dont get any real info as I also dont know exactly what im looking for termonology wise.

First- The mother insisted on her children __________ in the park after dark. Here its obviously "not playing" to me, but when asked why is it not "not to play" with a slightly different sentence rhythm I suddenly did not know why.

Second- The doctor always talks to me ______ a teacher talks to a child. Again here it is obviously "like" as it compares the two things. But they asked why not "similar as" as it also compares two things by saying they are the same. I know its wrong in my head (or gut) but for the life of me I cant figure out why.

I thought I would ask this thread as you are all knowledgable on the technicalities of this. so I would appreciate any and all assistance.
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Re: Grammar question that makes sense, but I dont know why

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jonathanschulz wrote: April 11th, 2024, 8:32 amFirst- The mother insisted on her children __________ in the park after dark. Here its obviously "not playing" to me, but when asked why is it not "not to play" with a slightly different sentence rhythm I suddenly did not know why.
The word "on" is a preposition. Prepositions are always followed by a noun (include pronoun or gerund which is a verb in noun form). Therefore "insist on doing" :ok: not "insist on to do" :nok: .

See https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/pre ... s-rule.php
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jonathanschulz wrote: April 11th, 2024, 8:32 amSecond- The doctor always talks to me ______ a teacher talks to a child. Again here it is obviously "like" as it compares the two things. But they asked why not "similar as" as it also compares two things by saying they are the same. I know its wrong in my head (or gut) but for the life of me I cant figure out why.
If using "similar" the correct and idiomatic construction is "similar to", so one could say:

The doctor always talks to me similar to the way a teacher talks to a child. :ok:

"similar as" is not standard BrE. Not sure what it is in AmE but I don't think it's possible.

"like" is the obvious choice, as you say.
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Why "not playing" and not "not to play"?
This comes down to the verb "insist". "Insist" is often followed by a preposition ("on") and then a noun or a gerund (-ing form of a verb).

Example with noun: "She insisted on silence."
Example with gerund: "He insisted on leaving early."
In your sentence, "playing" is the gerund, making it the correct choice after "insisted on."

"Not to play" would be used in a different construction, like: "The mother told her children not to play in the park after dark." Here, "told" is the verb, and "not to play" is the infinitive form.
Second Question: The doctor always talks to me like a teacher talks to a child.

Why "like" and not "similar as"?

"Like" is used as a preposition to compare two things or actions, indicating they are similar in some way. It's simpler and more direct.

"Similar as" is not a standard English phrase. While "similar to" is grammatically correct, it's usually used when describing how two things are alike in a more general sense.

Example with "similar to": "Your handwriting is similar to mine."
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