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Studying pronunciation is a waste of time.

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Studying pronunciation is a waste of time.
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Hi all,

I wonder which pronunciation we have to study. There are too many forms of pronunciation - Australian, American, the RP pronunciation, etc.. -and I don't know what to choose. So I think that some times to stusy pronunciation is a waste of time.

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I am agree. I am working with english speakers and is very dificult to get what people are saying.
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Pronunciation waste time.

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Pronunciation is not waste of time. I am substitute teacher, I have accent so I have problem with kids. Sometime they do not understand me and I feel bad. I took a course about Odium and pronunciation but it take time to see how you progress. : :roll:
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Sorry guys, but pronunciation is super important. I have had so many students who know grammer well, have a good vocabulary, but have horrible pronunciation, so what good is knowing English if you cant pronounce it? English pronunciation is very difficult, but very necessary if you are trying to make someone understand you.
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rjcglass wrote:Sorry guys, but pronunciation is super important. I have had so many students who know grammer well, have a good vocabulary, but have horrible pronunciation, so what good is knowing English if you cant pronounce it? English pronunciation is very difficult, but very necessary if you are trying to make someone understand you.
Are you confusing intonation with pronunciation? The music is probably more important than the lyrics so let´s get some good harmony first and then fit in the words. Sts. need to learn the patterns through hand clapping and feet stamping, knuckle banging etc. :lol:
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rjcglass wrote:Sorry guys, but pronunciation is super important. I have had so many students who know grammer well, have a good vocabulary, but have horrible pronunciation, so what good is knowing English if you cant pronounce it? English pronunciation is very difficult, but very necessary if you are trying to make someone understand you.
Which pronunciation? The American pronunciation or the Estuary English pronunciation?
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i think it is

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i think studyng the correct pronunciation of any lanaguage is badly needed specially the english language.
i am teaching english in thailand for more that 2 yrs now and i realize how important correct grammar and pronunciation is.... so in short it is not a waste of time.. ITS WORTH DOING GUYS.. so come on join me learn correct pronunciation with fun
what it not worth studying is tha accent ex. american.. british aussie.. as long as we understand each other..

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birrell wrote:
rjcglass wrote:Sorry guys, but pronunciation is super important. I have had so many students who know grammer well, have a good vocabulary, but have horrible pronunciation, so what good is knowing English if you cant pronounce it? English pronunciation is very difficult, but very necessary if you are trying to make someone understand you.
Which pronunciation? The American pronunciation or the Estuary English pronunciation?
I'm agree with you i keep working in my pronuciation....
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inna wrote:


i think studyng the correct pronunciation of any lanaguage is badly needed specially the english language.
i am teaching english in thailand for more that 2 yrs now and i realize how important correct grammar and pronunciation is.... so in short it is not a waste of time.. ITS WORTH DOING GUYS.. so come on join me learn correct pronunciation with fun
what it not worth studying is tha accent ex. american.. british aussie.. as long as we understand each other..

cheers..
I got your message i m interesting to improve my english
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Re: Pronunciation waste time.

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Mariam Nakhla wrote:Pronunciation is not waste of time. I am substitute teacher, I have accent so I have problem with kids. Sometime they do not understand me and I feel bad. I took a course about Odium and pronunciation but it take time to see how you progress. : :roll:
Maybe you should also take a few more lessons in English grammar too?
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pronunciation is very important . if you don't pronunce the word correctly be sure the receiver will missunderstand you .I am talking about the RP pronunciation. the british one. I would be greatful if I find an other teacher to discuss this topic this is my email ( *******.co.uk ) :?:
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birrell wrote:
rjcglass wrote:Sorry guys, but pronunciation is super important. I have had so many students who know grammer well, have a good vocabulary, but have horrible pronunciation, so what good is knowing English if you cant pronounce it? English pronunciation is very difficult, but very necessary if you are trying to make someone understand you.
Which pronunciation? The American pronunciation or the Estuary English pronunciation?
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I cannot believe that some people think pronunciation is not important, of course if you just spend your life on the message boards....

Face to face in the real world however, it isn't just what you say, but how you say it. People won't want to talk to you if they can't understand you, it's just too tiring. This doesn't mean that we all have to talk like the Queen of England though, as long as people can understand you that's fine. :wink:

And if you don't believe me listen to that famous 'Pronunciation poem', then you will realise just how important it is.

Pronunciation Please
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pronounciation

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[iIs pronounciaton important? I'll say! Has anyone ever tried to listen to someone mispronounce words. I have students whose pronounciation is so bad even if I have the text in front of me I can't understand what they are saying. If supposedly we learn a language in order to communicate in it, what good does it do to not be able to speak clearly. It doesn't matter what accent you have as long as you speak clearly, otherwise noone will understand you. :!: ][/i]
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Re: Pronunciation waste time?i do not think so.

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Mariam Nakhla wrote:Pronunciation is not waste of time. I am substitute teacher, I have accent so I have problem with kids. Sometime they do not understand me and I feel bad. I took a course about Odium and pronunciation but it take time to see how you progress. : :roll:




i am a chinese and i like your opinions.are you an american?
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[quote="Lynne"]I cannot believe that some people think pronunciation is not important, of course if you just spend your life on the message boards....

Face to face in the real world however, it isn't just what you say, but how you say it. People won't want to talk to you if they can't understand you, it's just too tiring. This doesn't mean that we all have to talk like the Queen of England though, as long as people can understand you that's fine. :wink:

And if you don't believe me listen to that famous 'Pronunciation poem', then you will realise just how important it is.

can i make a friend with you ?
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Studying pronunciation is a waste of time :evil: :P :arrow:
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birrell wrote:
rjcglass wrote:Sorry guys, but pronunciation is super important. I have had so many students who know grammer well, have a good vocabulary, but have horrible pronunciation, so what good is knowing English if you cant pronounce it? English pronunciation is very difficult, but very necessary if you are trying to make someone understand you.
Which pronunciation? The American pronunciation or the Estuary English pronunciation?
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Pronunciation is really important. We use words to communicate in real life. Bad pronunciation will cause mass misunderstanding. If people can't understand what you say, they will have no interest to talk to you.
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I strongly object to it.I believe that the pronunciation is fundmental.of course it's very important.it can help us a lot with our listening skills.if we can't master the pronunciation well,we'll find many obstacles when listening.also it can enhance our confidence in english learning.the key to success lies in practice.practice,practice,practice the pronunciation.believe me,it will benefit u a lot.
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Well , I can affirm that pronunciation is very important for all of us . You can't imagine how would you study English without pronunciation ? You can still speak English but nobody can understand what you are saying . Only by learning pronunciation , you can master English . Now I'm the first year student . Previously , when I learned at my high school, my form teacher didn't pay attention to pronunciation. But when I go to the university , everything changed. At first I found that pronunciation is very difficult . But gradually I find that I can speak English well if I don't learn pronuncitation . So I can say that pronunciation is very important for all of us .
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Re: Studying Pronunciation is a Waste of Time!

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Talking Point wrote:Studying Pronunciation is a Waste of Time!

What do you think?
I'm not agree with you brother. I feel it is so important to learn the pronunciation rules for thetarget language to be effective in it. I like this cours so much when I have been studied it.
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Pronunciation is very important.

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It is undoubted that pronunciation is very important for every language.If you can't pronounce correctly or properly,how can you understand others and how can you make yourself understoood?

Sometimes,we have such experience:we only hear the voice of a stranger who is out of sight.If he or she can pronounce clearly and correctly,have a very good intonation,it is like the music to our ear and we are pleased to enjoy listening,simultaneously, we may automatically form a mental picture about the stranger that he or she must have good personalities and great charm and have a pleasant appearance,which may promote us to come close to him or her and make friends with him or her.From this point of view,pronunciation is one part of first impression and also our name card,so we should try our best to make our name card as beautiful and graceful as possible.

Some of us maybe come across such situation where we are requested to repeat what we have just said more than one time due to our incorrect pronunciation.As we repeat the sentence slowly,we may feel a little embarrassed and lose some confidence in ourselves,sometimes even forget what we will speak.

Certainly,it is not necessary for us to speak as well as a local,however,we are supposed to improve pronunciation to smooth our communication.
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Post by Fenerbahçeli »

how can I memorize them? it is difficult to learn them. I think my grammer is well but vocabulary and pronounce aren't well. what can I do to develop them?
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Post by Arale »

It depends. But I never think it wastes time to learn it, even for non-professional learners.

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Post by D »

The entire debate is preposterous — of course pronunciation and enunciation matter! After all, who can be bothered talking to someone whose oral deliveries sound like home-invented grunting language? 'So wot if thoyve bin learnin inglish f'yeez if u caan undastan' a bloin word thayr soyin?'

I contribute regularly to another messageboard for English learners, and I find it amazing how sooner or later there is always a less advanced learner who dare suggest that 'grammar is useless' and 'pronunciation doesn't matter'.

Ironically enough, it's usually also the same people whose English orthography leaves a tad, or many tads, to be desired. How easy it is to discard what one doesn't understand!

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