Do people have the right to die how they choose?

TalkingPoint · Post by **TalkingPoint** » April 6th, 2005, 10:09 pm

If people have the right to live how they choose, do they also have the right to die how they choose?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » April 6th, 2005, 11:29 pm

Yes! All personal will should be respected either it's orally wish or documentally wish.

Shazzam · Post by **Shazzam** » April 12th, 2005, 12:41 pm

People should have the right to make this choice if they are terminally ill. However, due to the situations that legally face families; i feel that the importance should be placed in a legal document (either by document or by video) of the persons intentions. I think pretty much verbal understandings shouldn't be taken into consideration. It only takes a few minutes to make a video, and we all should have a Will anyway.

Dream · Post by **Dream** » April 13th, 2005, 2:16 pm

I think people should have such rights, but unfortunately now we are not protected of using our rights as malicious intent :( Not all of people could protect themself from... their relatives. Now we can only dream of our wishes are fulfilled.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » April 16th, 2005, 7:00 pm

Right to die
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_die

gill · Post by **gill** » April 20th, 2005, 6:21 pm

TP wrote:If people have the right to live how they choose, do they also have the right to die how they choose?

absolutely. as we have right to live we have right not to live.

lukiyas · Post by **lukiyas** » April 26th, 2005, 8:21 am

i don't think people should have the right to die .we can't choose if we are born in this world or not so we don't have the right to leave.somebody may say they are terminally ill and they must suffer to terrible pains but pains are parts of living and some may say they are burdens to their families but would they do the same thing if their relatives fell in such situation.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » April 26th, 2005, 9:35 pm

lukiyas wrote: i don't think people should have the right to die .we can't choose if we are born in this world or not so we don't have the right to leave.somebody may say they are terminally ill and they must suffer to terrible pains but pains are parts of living and some may say they are burdens to their families but would they do the same thing if their relatives fell in such situation.

Just so you were born "without" your choice of whether you should have been born or not, you would not have a right to decide whether you should leave this world or not????? Oh my god, this is the first time I've heard something like this. No more words to express; otherwise, I would become really rude and right now, I'm PMSing.

hagandaz · Post by **hagandaz** » May 2nd, 2005, 4:18 pm

you are not born by yourself, it wasn't your choice. god wants that. we all belong to god, it's not our choice to die.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » May 2nd, 2005, 5:45 pm

hagandaz wrote:you are not born by yourself, it wasn't your choice. god wants that. we all belong to god, it's not our choice to die.

So people who don't believe in God don't belong to God

???? No one belongs to anyone beside himself and family, PERIOD.

hagandaz · Post by **hagandaz** » May 2nd, 2005, 5:49 pm

what i mean is that we are a creation of god. its not a question of believes. so we belong to god. this is the root.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » May 2nd, 2005, 6:02 pm

hagandaz wrote:what i mean is that we are a creation of god. its not a question of believes. so we belong to god. this is the root.

Yes, it is not a question of belief because faith doesn't need proofs, but I don't believe in God; I believe in Buddhism and in Buddhism, we believe in evolution. There is no God. We have evolved. I don't believe human beings were made from clays on the ..... day of the week and then brothers and sisters mate with each other so this whole world could become full. Please don't give me that since I'm not that kinda believer. Please don't give me 'we belong to God is not a question of belief, but it's a fact.' As far as I know, the fact shows that we have evolved. No God involved.

hagandaz · Post by **hagandaz** » May 2nd, 2005, 6:59 pm

god give us brains to think rationally, you can believe or not in god. but i'd like to know what do you think about death, is theire any life after death and how we came to this world, a lot of questions. i found the answers in islam. so i believe in god. i don't wanna cause a religion dispute but we should think together and try to find the answers : yours with mines.

leen@rasel · Post by **leen@rasel** » May 4th, 2005, 9:44 pm

I dont think that people have the right to choose if they want to die because we were asked if we want to be humans or if we want to live we were created by God we live because he wants that and we die if he wanted to

leen@rasel · Post by **leen@rasel** » May 4th, 2005, 9:47 pm

leen@rasel wrote:I dont think that people have the right to choose if they want to die because we were not asked if we want to be humans or if we want to live we were created by God we live because he wants that and we die if he wanted to

visali · Post by **visali** » May 5th, 2005, 2:49 am

Absolutely they have no right to die themselves at thier wish.
Afterall, we all are living in a society.
Suicide will send danger signals to society and the people in the same state or circumstances can be inspired by that act.
The action, whatever it is, must do with the permission of Constitution of his country.

Pearla · Post by **Pearla** » May 7th, 2005, 9:21 am

I think God gave us the right to live for a wisdom that he know it, so i think he's the only one who can take our souls and pass us away, so no one can really end his life by himselfe and say it's my right i dont want to live. ok, who gave you this right to live ? it's God, or it was possible for him to pass you away at the minute you born, but he didn't because he planned something for you and give you chance to live to serve the humanity and the earth. personally, i think those who say that they have the right to end their life are sick people who need help with my respect of course to all who disagree with me. but let us think about it, why someone will think to end his life?
he must facing difficulties in his life that he thinks it's impossible to be solved.

then there is another point we should shed the light to it, when they die themselves they are hurting those people who care about them and need them.

i think we should not be selfish and life is a good gift from God, that we should know how to invest it the right investment in what benefit the humanity.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » May 7th, 2005, 9:39 am

Pearla wrote:

I think God gave us the right to live for a wisdom that he know it, so i think he's the only one who can take our souls and pass us away, so no one can really end his life by himselfe and say it's my right i dont want to live. ok, who gave you this right to live ? it's God, or it was possible for him to pass you away at the minute you born, but he didn't because he planned something for you and give you chance to live to serve the humanity and the earth. personally, i think those who say that they have the right to end their life are sick people who need help with my respect of course to all who disagree with me. but let us think about it, why someone will think to end his life?

Let me tell you what is sick to me. It's sick to me when my parents gave me life and some people knock on my door telling me to believe in God because he/she gave me life. To me it's the most nonsense I have ever heard. I do not believe in God so don't throw "God gives you life" in my face because I will spit it back at ya. I've read religion books and those have sicken me to the bones. It's because of the ~ in their pages. That's why non-religious people make fun of religions by calling their violence as 'holy wars' If you look at the words then you'll understand. Holy and wars are too opposite things. If there is holy, there is no wars because holy is supposed to mean angelic, blessed, clean, faultless, glorified, or spiritual; on the other hand, wars mean bloodshed, fighting, hostilities, killing, fighting, combat, etc. Those two words is a mockery to those who say they're religious, but then go ahead and kill other people. Bunch of hypocrites, I must say.
So if you think people who don't wanna bother others because they know there is no cure to help them or whatever reason to end their life are sick, you should reconsider about people who say 'God bless you' or 'Bless your heart' blah blah blah but do the opposite things to what they say. Those are sick people to me, PERIOD.

Shazzam · Post by **Shazzam** » May 17th, 2005, 7:26 am

[ 'holy wars' If you look at the words then you'll understand. Holy and wars are too opposite things. If there is holy, there is no wars because holy is supposed to mean angelic, blessed, clean, faultless, glorified, or spiritual; on the other hand, wars mean bloodshed, fighting, hostilities, killing, fighting, combat, etc. Those two words and kill other people. Bunch of hypocrites, I must say.
So if you think people who don't wanna bother others because they know there is no cure to help them or whatever reason to end their life are sick, you should reconsider about people who say 'God bless you' or 'Bless your heart' blah blah blah but do the opposite things to what they say. Those are sick people to me, PERIOD.

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My goodness this debate has certainly gone off the rails. How and why does religion come into it with such venem. I mean my goodness. We all have rights! Including freedom of speech without judgment.

Sorry! Maybe I shouldn't express my opinion.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » May 17th, 2005, 7:45 am

shazzam1452 wrote: My goodness this debate has certainly gone off the rails. How and why does religion come into it with such venem. I mean my goodness. We all have rights! Including freedom of speech without judgment.

Sorry! Maybe I shouldn't express my opinion.

Are you saying that to people who have said 'God gives me life so he should end it and not anyone'???????

Shazzam · Post by **Shazzam** » May 17th, 2005, 9:59 am

Are you saying that to people who have said 'God gives me life so he should end it and not anyone'???????[/quote]

I'm not saying anything regarding people's religious beliefs one way or another. All I'm saying is that the whole debate seems to being about God (religion; of one description or another; holy wars. etc). I find that the original debate has been lost somewhere. Thats all.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » May 17th, 2005, 11:28 am

shazzam1452 wrote: I'm not saying anything regarding people's religious beliefs one way or another. All I'm saying is that the whole debate seems to being about God (religion; of one description or another; holy wars. etc). I find that the original debate has been lost somewhere. Thats all.

Well, I didn't really wanna go into further discussion when some other people were trying to link religion with right to die because to them, other people, were not allowed to end their lives; it'd go against God's creation, but then I had to state my 'holy war' definition because some people who believe in God or tell others who think another different way are sick. I did not know being different or having different opinions than people who believe in God could make me become a sick person. Sometimes, life is a colorful picture to learn about people and your surroundings, ain't it?

Shazzam · Post by **Shazzam** » May 18th, 2005, 11:59 am

simplyblessedwithlove wrote:[Well, I didn't really wanna go into further discussion when some other people were trying to link religion with right to die because to them, other people, were not allowed to end their lives; it'd go against God's creation, but then I had to state my 'holy war' definition because some people who believe in God or tell others who think another different way are sick. I did not know being different or having different opinions than people who believe in God could make me become a sick person. :

I never said that I thought you were sick! I don't know where you got that from. I certainly never said that in anything that i wrote.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » May 18th, 2005, 7:39 pm

shazzam1452 wrote:
simplyblessedwithlove wrote:[Well, I didn't really wanna go into further discussion when some other people were trying to link religion with right to die because to them, other people, were not allowed to end their lives; it'd go against God's creation, but then I had to state my 'holy war' definition because some people who believe in God or tell others who think another different way are sick. I did not know being different or having different opinions than people who believe in God could make me become a sick person. :
I never said that I thought you were sick! I don't know where you got that from. I certainly never said that in anything that i wrote.

Not you, sweetie. It was another person whom posted before my post of holy war definition. I was explaining to that person why I thought some persons were sick regardless of having a religion or not.

Dithzie · Post by **Dithzie** » May 29th, 2005, 3:03 pm

That's what free will is for, I personally believe. Every person has a right to die, if he so wishes. It's a matter of choice.

mrnadeemkhan · Post by **mrnadeemkhan** » June 5th, 2005, 1:14 am

simplyblessedwithlove wrote:Yes! All personal will should be respected either it's orally wish or documentally wish.

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Being a mulsim , our faith is that, Allah makes the whole universe even the human being is masterpiece with a brain, which have unbelieveable thinking power, has already written the whole life and even the situation of death. nobody can decide the way of death, or can die by their own. Everyone knows the right and wrong doings, so its up to them , whethen they choose write or wrong, .
Cheers pall.

sunnyni · Post by **sunnyni** » September 28th, 2005, 9:00 am

In my opinion, everyone has his right to end his life.
First , Yes ,no one has right to choose his birth. But after his birth, he has all the right of his body and mind. He can bring up his own view to the world, he can do more practice for his health or not and he has right to subscribe his organ to help others.These are all decided by himself. so of cause he has right to end his life for the better life of his relative and lover.
Second,someone may say the people who chose end his life when he face the difficulty is craven. From some aspect, it seems he is , but maybe difference people cherish difference things, such as dignity , passion and faith. Such as some people want to die with dignity , he want beautiful face and body after he die. He don't want to die dingygily. So he chose end his life himself.

So difference people has difference view to death, why do they don't have right even for death.

tikay · Post by **tikay** » January 7th, 2006, 10:18 pm

Last night I watched and read (subtitles) in Spanish a very good movie, for myself anyway...on this subject and my opinion is not that important on the subject becuase it constantly changes...this is a hard one. Anyway I agree and disagree with a lot of things in the thread so maybe I will add to it after more thought.

it is good to hear (read)the passion about it
(my humble opinion)...bye-4-now

tikay · Post by **tikay** » January 9th, 2006, 4:51 am

UH OH...I was afraid of that...I forgot the name of the movie yesterday....so sorry! If you want to watch it ...see the movie THE SEA INSIDE....very controversial ending, I assure you.
I believe that basically people should have the right to leave the earth...to come and go as they please. But then I am coming from the live and let live generation of the sixties.
so that is just natural for me. I do have to say i have written in here that suicide is selfish ....so i am still undecided about generalities I suppose....it is all about the circumstances.
I highly suggest that movie (The Sea Inside) to any one interested in the subject.
Thanks to the Buddhist fellow who does not believe in godhead...a good thing for me to think about because I have been calling myself Buddhist but I absolutely believe in all Gods and in all Goddess(es)....interesting no?
everyone is so interesting really!

shokin · Post by **shokin** » January 9th, 2006, 2:19 pm

I did not know that many people wondered about their way of dying.

Let us choose the most ecological way of leaving the living.

But let you think and choose. When you'll be ded, who will know how you did want to die.

I want to die on 24 June 2060 at 13.57.43. in the middle of Amazonian forest and by a general tumor. I want my body to be burn and the ashes have to be put in equal parts at each cataracts of the Nil. My debts to Wallmart and my goods to WWF.

Shokin

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