Quran

kind_heart · Post by **kind_heart** » August 22nd, 2004, 11:18 am

The Challenge Of The Qur'aan

Literature and poetry have been instruments of human expression and creativity, in all cultures. The world also witnessed an age when literature and poetry occupied pride of position, similar to that now enjoyed by science and technology.

Muslims as well as non-Muslims agree that Al-Qur’aan is Arabic literature par excellence - that it is the best Arabic literature on the face of the earth. The Qur’aan, challenges mankind in the following verses:

“And if ye are in doubt As to what We have revealed From time to time to Our Servant, then produce a Soorah Like thereunto; And call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, If your (doubts) are true. But if ye cannot –And of a surety you cannot. hen fear the Fire Whose fuel is Men and Stones – Which is prepared for those Who reject Faith.”
[Al-Qur’aan 2:23-24]

(Al-Qur’an 2:23-24 indicates Soorah or Chapter No. 2 and Ayaat or Verses 23 and 24.)

The same notation is followed throughout the book. References and translation of the Qur’aan are from the translation of the Qur’aan by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, new revised edition, 1989, published by Amana Corporation, Maryland, USA.

The challenge of the Qur’aan, is to produce a single Soorah (chapter) like the Soorahs it contains. The same challenge is repeated in the Qur’aan several times. The challenge to produce a Soorah, which, in beauty, eloquence, depth and meaning is at least somewhat similar to a Qur’aanic Soorah remains unmet to this day. A modern rational man, however, would never accept a religious scripture, which says, in the best possible poetic language, that the world is flat. This is because we live in an age, where human reason, logic and science are given primacy. Not many would accept the Qur’aan’s extraordinarily beautiful language, as proof of its Divine origin. Any scripture claiming to be a divine revelation must also be acceptable on the strength of its own reason and logic.

According to the famous physicist and Nobel Prize winner, Albert Einstein, “Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.” Let us therefore study the Qur’aan, and analyze whether The Qur’aan and Modern Science are compatible or incompatible?
The Qur’aan is not a book of science but a book of ‘signs’, i.e. ayats. There are more than six thousand ‘signs’ in the Qur’aan of which more than a thousand deal with science. We all know that many a times Science takes a ‘U-turn’. In this book I have considered only established scientific facts and not mere hypotheses and theories that are based on assumptions and are not backed by proof.

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 7th, 2005, 6:47 pm

I bought a book Quran from bookstore today. it is english version. it is a wonderful book!

I have to say, it is a magic book. I am not a Muslim, and at the beginning, I read Quran just because of curiosity. but now I am so infatuated with this book!

I wonder why Arabian acient people could predict so many things!

juhainah · Post by **juhainah** » June 8th, 2005, 7:25 pm

It made me pleased that u became infatuated with Quran. I am an Arab and Muslim girl. Of course, the more you know about Islam, the more infatuated with it you will be. Islam is the religion of justice, happiness, chastity, truth, clarity, sincerity, altruism, and mercy. :)

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 9th, 2005, 12:09 am

But an Arabian guy told me, Quran of english version isn't as authentic as the Arabic one. maybe that is just a matter of translation. any work will become kinda different after it is translated in the other language.

juhainah · Post by **juhainah** » June 9th, 2005, 10:44 am

Anyway, I haven't read the translation of the meaning of Quran, but as you said, it is maybe different as they only translate the meaning of the Quran cuz it has to go this way. By the way, u made me curious to read the English version.

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 9th, 2005, 11:29 am

juhainah wrote:Anyway, I haven't read the translation of the meaning of Quran, but as you said, it is maybe different as they only translate the meaning of the Quran cuz it has to go this way. By the way, u made me curious to read the English version.

after you read Quran's english version, you will think the Arabic version better :D I guess

juhainah · Post by **juhainah** » June 9th, 2005, 11:49 am

I'll try to find the English version in order to know how it is like. You know what, this subject is driving me to think of the translation of Arabic Texts into English which is more difficult than the reverse.

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 9th, 2005, 12:49 pm

you mean, to translate, Arabic---English is more difficult than English ----Arabic?

anyway, this english version is very wonderful. the translator must be an english professor!

In Quran, there are many verses, each of which describes a story. some stories are so mysterious and profound.

juhainah · Post by **juhainah** » June 9th, 2005, 2:59 pm

you mean, to translate, Arabic---English is more difficult than English ----Arabic?

EXACTLY!

anyway, this english version is very wonderful. the translator must be an english professor!

WOULD U MIND TELLING ME HIS NAME. PLZ?

In Quran, there are many verses, each of which describes a story. some stories are so mysterious and profound.

ACTUALLY, QURAN HAS MANY STORIES. EACH OF WHICH HAS A MESSAGE.

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 9th, 2005, 3:19 pm

juhainah wrote:[
anyway, this english version is very wonderful. the translator must be an english professor!

WOULD U MIND TELLING ME HIS NAME. PLZ?

.

the translator's name is D.S. Sucec, whose english is nearly as good as yours! juhainah!

Maybe I should learn some Arabic, u know what? my Arabic is very poor, I just know 123456789 in Arabic

Elba · Post by **Elba** » June 10th, 2005, 1:01 am

Redy,

I´m proud of you. Even you don´t belive in any religion you have the disposition to not close your mind and acept to know one of the most interesting books arround the world, and a 100 per cent holly book.
You must to read the chapter of Maria.

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 10th, 2005, 4:28 am

oh, unbelievable! Quran mentioned Maria!

Elba, when I read your post, I jumped to the chapter about Maria. but it seems that Maria of Quan is so different than Maria of Bible. each religion has its own explanation about the same stuff.

Yeah, I am an Atheist. so from my viewpoint, each explanation is for its own religion.

and in Quran, Juses was a messenger of Allah just like Muhammad!

juhainah · Post by **juhainah** » June 10th, 2005, 7:44 am

Thanks RedRose for giving me the translator's name. I'll try to find that book.

It's good to hear that you wanna learn Arabic. At least u can count from 1 until 9 in Arabic. Don't give up, the task that takes a long time begins with one step (this is a proverb in Arabic). I can teach u Aranic if u want :) .

I totally agree with what u have said Elba. I also like this sense of quest in RedRose. Talking of the chapter of Maria, Maria of Bible is different than Maria of Quran. Moreover, Jesus is a messenger of Allah like Mohammed. We can talk in details about this issue. I'll be back to do so. If u have anything to discuss concerning this subject, RedRose, don't hesitate. I can inform u with anything dealt with each chapter.

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » June 10th, 2005, 11:16 am

Elba wrote:Redy,

I´m proud of you. Even you don´t belive in any religion you have the disposition to not close your mind and acept to know one of the most interesting books arround the world

I was going to say the same!! Everybody should be as open-minded as RedRose. She doesn't believe in religion, and yet she is interested in reading that book and seeing what it is like. I don't know many people who would do something like that. Great job, Zhu!!! ;) I am your greatest fan :D

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 10th, 2005, 12:37 pm

Dixie wrote:
Elba wrote:´Great job, Zhu!!! ;) I am your greatest fan :D

OMG! last week my bf just said he was my fan(he meant, perverted fan), and now Dixie is my fan too. so Dixie is my second fan!

and juhainah, thank you for your help! if I have any problem when I start learning Arabic, I will let you know! :)

Elba · Post by **Elba** » June 10th, 2005, 11:30 pm

Redy,

I´m your fan too, and Frengo, and Unknownsu and all EC members.
I know Quran has a different concept of Maria, but it is important you know this point of view and what she mean to muslims. I´m not defend the chatolic concept of the mother of Jesus, but I´m not atack it too.
What I mean is that people should know what the religious symbols mean for anothers in order to not ofend the feelings of nobody. After Quran you should read something about the Bible, and of course I recomend you the Apocrif chapters of the Bible. They would be difficult to find, but you can do it at Internet.

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 11th, 2005, 3:48 am

thanks, fans! I will read Bible (although I already read some chapters of Bible online). and Now I have to read Quran.

Sometimes, religion books can widen our sights, and help us learn other cutures. that is pretty cool.

Usama · Post by **Usama** » June 11th, 2005, 12:34 pm

Hi...Can i join the disscusion?
or i will interrupt you..

I am very glad to hear that you (redrose) enjoyed reading in Quran..
I am an arab also..and i can tell you whatever you want about Quran , Islam and Arabic language..(Such as juhainah :D )

Quran is really a superb book...it filled with a great number of miracles we can watch it nowadays...

and If you are intersted in reading more about maria in Quran, you can read the last sections of the third chapter in Quraan (Al-Emran)...Sory i am not quite sure of the spelling).

but i am really happy of being open-minded...

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 11th, 2005, 12:57 pm

thanks usama for your enthusiastic help. Muslim are so kind.

yeah, I are reading Quran in detail. In this magic book, some explanations for natural phenomena are very amazing. some phonemena have been proved by modern advanced instruments just in pass 1000 years, but Quran described and explained these phonemena more than 1000 years ago! that is a real mystery!

Usama · Post by **Usama** » June 11th, 2005, 4:37 pm

RedRose wrote: but Quran described and explained these phonemena more than 1000 years ago! that is a real mystery!

You are absolutely right.. :)
and that is the miracle..

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » June 11th, 2005, 8:14 pm

RedRose wrote: so Dixie is my second fan!

Come on you knew from the very beginning!! :D I am your #1 fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE REDROSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

leen@rasel · Post by **leen@rasel** » June 18th, 2005, 5:03 pm

of coursa my dear many people have raed this book because it is realy a book of truth and mericales it is the book of lessons and advices it is a sourse of strength power and hope no one realizes its worth until he reads it is realy a treasure and i thank you for your topic and iblieve that you are muslim, just like me ,who hopes that everyone one day will realize this fact :P and i would like to ask you for your e-mail and your country ....thanks

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 21st, 2005, 12:32 am

wow! the Arabic 12345 is so different than what I have known before! thank you for your kind help.

Thalia, this homework is so hard for me

by comparison, I rather read Quran's stories of english version.

in this book, at beginning, the author mentioned a scary story, which was about Adam!!! Adam had two sons, one was Abel, the other was Cain...Cain killed Abel for a woman!

and in Quan, Adam(Peace be upon him :) ) was just a messenger of Allah. I had never known that Adam was in Islam this way before. each religion is so different than the others.

Miss. Ladybird · Post by **Miss. Ladybird** » June 21st, 2005, 1:13 pm

RedRose wrote:wow! the Arabic 12345 is so different than what I have known before! thank you for your kind help..

any time!

RedRose wrote:Thalia, this homework is so hard for me by comparison, I rather read Quran's stories of english version. .

Then check Chapter XXVIII It's full of stories about most of the prophets(peace be upon them)

RedRose wrote:in this book, at beginning, the author mentioned a scary story, which was about Adam!!! Adam had two sons, one was Abel, the other was Cain...Cain killed Abel for a woman!

and in Quan, Adam(Peace be upon him :) ) was just a messenger of Allah. I had never known that Adam was in Islam this way before. each religion is so different than the others.

You are right! A lot of Non-Muslims think that we only believe in Mohamad(peace be upon him) as a messenger from Allah... and that is wrong....
We believe in Moses, Aron, Adam and Eve, Jesus, Job, Joseph, Jacob , etc..............

Usama · Post by **Usama** » June 23rd, 2005, 12:19 pm

You are right! A lot of Non-Muslims think that we only believe in Mohamad(peace be upon him) as a messenger from Allah... and that is wrong....
We believe in Moses, Aron, Adam and Eve, Jesus, Job, Joseph, Jacob , etc..............

You are definitely right...
and i think it's a big deal to have this wrong ideas.. :(

Elba · Post by **Elba** » June 25th, 2005, 2:02 am

Miss Ladybird,

Do you acepted me in your class.I have short time, too much activities but I´m going to try to be a good student

Miss. Ladybird · Post by **Miss. Ladybird** » June 25th, 2005, 1:27 pm

Elba wrote:Miss Ladybird,

Do you acepted me in your class.I have short time, too much activities but I´m going to try to be a good student

Of course I do........ :D
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....... Teacher Thalia........ I kinda like it.............

Marzieh · Post by **Marzieh** » June 27th, 2005, 2:01 pm

Great topic,Red rose!
You know, I was born a Muslim because my parents are Muslims.But I thought I should not take it for granted,like what most people do.I read many books about Islam and other religions ... and finally accepted Islam MYSELF although I was already a Muslim!! But now that I have done it I will never doubt or hesitate about this Holy religion!(I have started to learn Arabic in school in order to understand Quran better!!)You will enjoy reading Quran for sure! :D

RedRose · Post by **RedRose** » June 27th, 2005, 2:06 pm

Thanks guys! you guys are so kind.

and yes, Quran is an amazing book! and this translator is really brilliant!

Shazzam · Post by **Shazzam** » July 13th, 2005, 1:06 pm

RedRose wrote:Thanks guys! you guys are so kind.

and yes, Quran is an amazing book! and this translator is really brilliant!

I have briefly read through this forum and I must admit I am so impressed. No one is trying to force their opinions on anyone I put this down to REDROSE she is an amazing ambassador for this site. It is so nice that no one is judging or telling anyone what to believe; or forcing their opinions.

These are the only gifts that we really have in life (the right to form our own opinions). We all probably believe differently, and that is ok. We just have to accept that and gain the knowledge that we need to accept it.

Congradulations Redrose you are an inspiration.

I have looked at so many topics that end up in hateful words and you have just created a topic that everyone can feel free to open up in without being cut down. 8) 8)

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