About Bible

nancycumt · Post by **nancycumt** » June 27th, 2006, 9:11 am

have you read Bible!Lots of people think Bible is the best classic work.It includes all human qualities.I only read a little about Bible .what do you think of Bible? thank you very much.

byron · Post by **byron** » June 27th, 2006, 3:09 pm

nancycumt wrote:have you read Bible!Lots of people think Bible is the best classic work.It includes all human qualities.I only read a little about Bible .what do you think of Bible? thank you very much.

The Bible is in two parts. The Old Testament which is Jewish and pre-dates Jesus and the New Testament which post dates Jesus. Then there is the Koran which incorporates some of both and post dates Mohammed.
In English society it is said that there are two things you never discuss in a Pub (Bar) one is religion the other is politics.

nancycumt · Post by **nancycumt** » July 5th, 2006, 1:47 pm

Thank your answer ! This summer holiday i will read the whole book.I will share my opinion with you!Thank you again!

chiemdu · Post by **chiemdu** » July 7th, 2006, 6:25 am

as a catholic, i have read the Bible many times. i don't think a summer holiday a enough and specific time for you to read the whole book because it takes a lot time to figure out what exactly God is driving at. i can ensure you that.
Reading the Bible is not for fun but for humanity. Only by that way can you understand fully what it's about.
that's just my opinion, what do u think?

Oriani · Post by **Oriani** » July 8th, 2006, 12:20 am

Well.. Hello guys.. I really like this topic.. I'm a Catholic girl and of Course and Read The Holy Bible and I can say that it has helped me a lot.. But talking about these topics it's kind of delicate..!!!

illusion · Post by **illusion** » July 9th, 2006, 2:29 pm

I'm also a catholic but I don't really read the Bible. I've read it a few times when I was younger but now I just don't do it. I guess I should get back to it sometime because it contains a lot of wise stuff.

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » July 9th, 2006, 11:10 pm

illusion wrote:I'm also a catholic but I don't really read the Bible.

Then you are probably a Catholic but not a Christian.
It is up to you to study scripture......not your priest!

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » July 9th, 2006, 11:30 pm

byron wrote: The Bible is in two parts. The Old Testament which is Jewish and pre-dates Jesus and the New Testament which post dates Jesus.

It is not accurate to call The Old Testament "Jewish". The old Testament covers the history of humankind from the Creation to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. Seen through the eyes of Hebrew people. The "JEWS" are only what is left of the Israelites. There were 12 tribes but the 10 tribes of the northern regions of Israel were taken captive by Assyrrians leaving only the tribe of Judah and Benjamin who are now referred to as the "Jews". It is important to make this distinction in order to fully understand prophecy for the future and past.

byron wrote: Then there is the Koran which incorporates some of both and post dates Mohammed.

The koran has nothing at all to do with the Bible. The Koran contradicts the Bible and was written by a mass murderer and his scribes, Mohammed. It was written some 600 years after the life of Jesus.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 10th, 2006, 7:34 am

danyet wrote:
illusion wrote:I'm also a catholic but I don't really read the Bible.
Then you are probably a Catholic but not a Christian.
It is up to you to study scripture......not your priest!

Catholics are Christians in a sense. You all believe in Jesus Christ.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 10th, 2006, 7:36 am

danyet wrote:
byron wrote: The Bible is in two parts. The Old Testament which is Jewish and pre-dates Jesus and the New Testament which post dates Jesus.

It is not accurate to call The Old Testament "Jewish". The old Testament covers the history of humankind from the Creation to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. Seen through the eyes of Hebrew people. The "JEWS" are only what is left of the Israelites. There were 12 tribes but the 10 tribes of the northern regions of Israel were taken captive by Assyrrians leaving only the tribe of Judah and Benjamin who are now referred to as the "Jews". It is important to make this distinction in order to fully understand prophecy for the future and past.

This is exactly what he meant by the Jewish part. Jewish people still wait for their savior.

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » July 10th, 2006, 12:12 pm

He said "The old Testament is Jewish". It is not!

And Catholics can not be Christian since they started the myth of Mary worsip. Not only this, they have changed and rewritten the 10 Commandments.

Also the Pope has said that he is Jesus's representative on Earth! What a load of Poop!

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 10th, 2006, 4:39 pm

danyet wrote:He said "The old Testament is Jewish". It is not!

The Old Testament covers the history of Judaism and Hebrew history. How is it not "Jewish" when Jewish don't believe in Jesus Christ as their savior whose life was covered in the New Testament???? :?

danyet wrote:And Catholics can not be Christian since they started the myth of Mary worsip. Not only this, they have changed and rewritten the 10 Commandments.

Roman Catholics, Protestans, Orthodox, etc. are all the same to me, well, except Jewish. You all believe in one God and Jesus Christ as a savior, which makes you Christian.

danyet wrote:Also the Pope has said that he is Jesus's representative on Earth! What a load of Poop!

Heard you, babe!

illusion · Post by **illusion** » July 10th, 2006, 9:42 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:
illusion wrote:I'm also a catholic but I don't really read the Bible.
Then you are probably a Catholic but not a Christian.
It is up to you to study scripture......not your priest!
Catholics are Christians in a sense. You all believe in Jesus Christ.

yeah, that's what I thought as well...

Oriani · Post by **Oriani** » July 10th, 2006, 11:56 pm

Being Christian is nice.. I love it..!!! what's the problem with it? We all believe in God anyway !

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » July 11th, 2006, 10:11 am

Oriani wrote: We all believe in God anyway !

Who's "we"?

Tora · Post by **Tora** » July 11th, 2006, 4:11 pm

I read only some extracts from Bible for children long-long time ago... don't feel like I want to read the whole book and for adults one... we don't even have a sample at home... I don't think something terrible will happen due to this fact

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 11th, 2006, 4:18 pm

Lucky you! Here they give it out for free. When you walk on the street, here goes a Bible for you to read when you get home. When you go to school, here goes a Bible for you to read when you feel stressed with school and such. When you're at home, here goes a Bible for you to read to protect your house and soul and probably change your belief if you believe in other religion. Everywhere you stay there will be a Bible for you. Same thing with Islam.

Tora · Post by **Tora** » July 11th, 2006, 4:23 pm

nothing for free in russia - even if it's a Bible! here only krishnaists give us free books and cookies... cookies are awesome I must say

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MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 11th, 2006, 4:26 pm

About Hindu? Or just books in general?

Tora · Post by **Tora** » July 11th, 2006, 4:34 pm

LennyeTran wrote:About Hindu? Or just books in general?

I don't take the book - just cookies!

not so long time ago I took a survey, it uncluded fifty-something questions concerning my viewpoints and beliefs, those ones eventually were to define what religion suits me... It turned out I'm very close to buddhism :D
I'm young to determine it, it will come one day or not...

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 11th, 2006, 4:38 pm

Tora wrote: not so long time ago I took a survey, it uncluded fifty-something questions concerning my viewpoints and beliefs, those ones eventually were to define what religion suits me... It turned out I'm very close to buddhism :D
I'm young to determine it, it will come one day or not...

I took it as well (probably not the same test, I guess), and it turned out I wasn't a Buddhist but a spiritual person. I found it "insulting" because I was darn sure I was a Buddhist.

Oriani · Post by **Oriani** » July 11th, 2006, 4:40 pm

Dixie wrote:
Oriani wrote: We all believe in God anyway !
Who's "we"?

Christian.... why???

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » July 11th, 2006, 5:23 pm

Oriani wrote: Christian.... why???

Oh, I thought by "we" you meant "everybody" and I was just going to comment on that... sorry :D

TuanAnVu · Post by **TuanAnVu** » July 26th, 2006, 2:37 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:
illusion wrote:I'm also a catholic but I don't really read the Bible.
Then you are probably a Catholic but not a Christian.
It is up to you to study scripture......not your priest!
Catholics are Christians in a sense. You all believe in Jesus Christ.

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I'm also a Catholic. Could you help me distinguish Catholics and Chirstians?. Hic, I wondered this question for a long time but I haven't any chance to express it. I expect your reply. Thanks.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 26th, 2006, 5:09 pm

TuanAnVu wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:Then you are probably a Catholic but not a Christian.
It is up to you to study scripture......not your priest!
Catholics are Christians in a sense. You all believe in Jesus Christ.
.

I'm also a Catholic. Could you help me distinguish Catholics and Chirstians?. Hic, I wondered this question for a long time but I haven't any chance to express it. I expect your reply. Thanks.

Vietnamese, right? Catholic is nguoi Cong Giao and Christian is nguoi Tin Lanh. I think you know the difference, right?

TuanAnVu · Post by **TuanAnVu** » July 26th, 2006, 5:57 pm

Vietnamese, right? Catholic is nguoi Cong Giao and Christian is nguoi Tin Lanh. I think you know the difference, right?

I know the difference between Cong Giao and Tin Lanh. But Christian means Co Doc Giao as we translate it into Vietnamese. I don't know about Co Doc Giao. Please tell me the simplest thing to realise it.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » July 26th, 2006, 6:04 pm

Co Doc Giao is different. Christianity means dao Thien Chua, which means all branches believe in one God and Jesus Christ even though they have their differences. Christians (in general term) are people who believe in Christ. That's why I said I don't really see the differences between Catholics and Christians.

Never mind, cross the first two lines out. I didn't know Christianity means Co Doc Giao in Vietnamese. I just called it Thien Chua Giao.

vince90 · Post by **vince90** » July 26th, 2006, 7:34 pm

May be I am wrong but to me “Co Doc Giao” and “Tin Lanh” are the same. Just another way to cal "Tin Lanh". The different between "Cong Giao" (Roman Catholic) " and the others is “Cong Giao” believes in Virgin Mary and the others don’t,. The priest in "Cong Giao" not allow to married but the others do.

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » July 29th, 2006, 8:02 pm

The reason Many Christians don't call Catholics "Christian" is because the Catholic Curch started in Rome, some 300 years after the first Christians appeared, at the time of Constantine who adopted Christianity as Romes state religion, where it became corrupted.

These Catholics introduced a mixture of pagan and Christian beliefs into their new religion. Some of these things were the introduction of the pagan holy day Sunday as the new day of worship instead of Saturday.
Easter.
Lent.
Christmas.
And the worship and praying to Mary and saints.

All of these things have roots in the pagan world.

Catholic priest also claimed to be able forgive other people's sins and actually charged fees for the "service". They also forbid the people to read the Bible and only the Priests were allowed to have a copy of the Bible. (Very few priests had copies of the Bible and even less had read it!) Regular people were killed as heretics for reading the Bible in those days.

Catholics also claim that their Pope is Christ's representative on Earth and that therefore the Catholic Church is the only authoritive body on Earth. For this reason the Catholics slaughtered an estimated 50 million innocent men women and children during the Inquisition. Many wre horribly tortured or buned alive, some were burned so slowly that it could be said that they were slowly cooked to death.

Fortunately in the 16th century during "The Reformation" people began to read the Bible for themselves and began to break away from this evil church.

These reasons and more are why Catholics are not considered true Christians by many. After all, who, after knowing all these things about the Catholics, would anyone want to stay in that religion?

Even so, there are many good poeple who are Catholics. I just don't know why they remain in such a church!

shigore · Post by **shigore** » August 5th, 2006, 7:06 am

I want to ask you one question?
did you read the holy koran?

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