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Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Krisi » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:11 am

Studying grammar is more important than practicing conversation skills.

Do you agree or disagree?
Why?

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I'm uncertain of this. But, for me it's very important to learn both!
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Bambang » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:15 pm

Talk ...talk ... and talk

Grammar is number 100.
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Krisi » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:50 am

Bambang wrote:Grammar is number 100.

Each language has varying ways on how to arrange words. How can we start constructing a sentence (and begin to talk) if we don't even know when, where and how to start?
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Bambang » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:13 am

Krisi wrote:
Bambang wrote:Grammar is number 100.

Each language has varying ways on how to arrange words. How can we start constructing a sentence (and begin to talk) if we don't even know when, where and how to start?


Three year old toddler can communicate with others, they never learn grammar. They dont even know what grammar is. However, they know how to say something, at least simple expression.
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Krisi » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:46 am

Bambang wrote:
Krisi wrote:
Bambang wrote:Grammar is number 100.

Each language has varying ways on how to arrange words. How can we start constructing a sentence (and begin to talk) if we don't even know when, where and how to start?


Three year old toddler can communicate with others, they never learn grammar. They dont even know what grammar is. However, they know how to say something, at least simple expression.


That's true for a toddler who is just beginning to talk. How about the grown ups (adults) who has a lot of inhibitions in mind... It won't be as easy as that I suppose.
Don't you think it's important to learn the grammatical functions logically (at the same time while practicing conversation)? :|
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Krisi » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:33 pm

Bambang wrote:Three year old toddler can communicate with others, they never learn grammar. They dont even know what grammar is. However, they know how to say something, at least simple expression.


This is an old adage Uncle B. We always compare ourselves to a toddler when we begin to study a language. If we become impolite in expressing what we want to say is there someone who will have a heart to correct us (just like when we were a toddler). I think, we will just be criticized for it and lost all of our friends. :?
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Vega » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:32 am

Bambang wrote:Talk ...talk ... and talk

Grammar is number 100.


I used to think the same. But now, it's also important for me what I talk and how I talk, in English.

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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby sweets » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:57 pm

well
i do not think that grammar is more imporatant than speaking even native speakers are do not know thier grammer well :shock:
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Bambang » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:29 pm

Xkalibur wrote:
Bambang wrote:Talk ...talk ... and talk

Grammar is number 100.


I used to think the same. But now, it's also important for me what I talk and how I talk, in English.


Learn Grammar to smoothen your conversation.
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Vega » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:54 am

Grammar is important, gentlemen.

sweets wrote:well
i do not think that grammar is more imporatant than speaking even native speakers are do not know thier grammer well :shock:


yeah, but that doesn't imply to not study grammar.

Bambang wrote:Learn Grammar to smoothen your conversation.


That's what I do.


Besides grammar, a big issue I am facing is to speak naturaly/ informal. That's also important..

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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby sweets » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:13 am

hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
but i do not think that i should study even the small details :?





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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Vega » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:15 am

sweets wrote:hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
but i do not think that i should study even the small details :?





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hmmmmmmm....You're deeply wrong on that matter. Every detail is important. :)

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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Krisi » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:11 am

Summing-up, they are both important. Thanks. You're all nice. :)
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby swingerman » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:59 pm

We use conversation skill when we meet people.
We use grammar skill when we are in ESL forums. :D

So they are both important.


if I need to choose one, i will choose convesation skill. Because in everyday, we're talking more than Writing.

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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Zehra » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:27 pm

grammar and vocabulary first and then naturally comes conversation.

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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby gbaroni » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:43 pm

I think the conversation is more important of grammar.

Because if you talk after learn grammar only.

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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Sunnypk » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:07 am

Can it be possible to speak any language without having grammar knowledge. I don't think so grammar is very compulsary tool to speaking in English.

if it is second language of anyone except his/her mothertongue he/she will be definitely thirst of the knowledge of grammar.
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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Vega » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:40 am

Grammar is the base of language, gentlemen.

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Re: Studying grammar is more important than...

Postby Sunnypk » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:40 am

Xkalibur wrote:Grammar is the base of language, gentlemen.



Definitely Xkalibur brother
I am agree with you that Grammar is the base of any language :)
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