The use of NEVER

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The use of NEVER

Post by Jeansmal » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:11 am

Hi,
I've read this sentence:
"There are three things I have learned NEVER to discuss with peple: religion, polictics and the Great Pumpkin".
My question is can we use NEVER TO DO something? (I looked up in the dictionaries, I just found NEVER DO, without TO).
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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Joe » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:43 am

I hope never to see her again.
You are advised never to go there.

You should never see her again.
You must never go there again.

Can you spot the difference?

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Jeansmal » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:39 am

Thanks for your reply.
Please correct me if I am wrong:
We use "Never to do" when we want to say about something we may not do in the future but we are not sure.
Am I right?

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Jeansmal » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:55 am

Trying to understand, I looked for some sentences with "NEVER TO..." on the net. Most of them are things to do in the future like lesson one has learned, desires, etc.
But I also found this "She was exellent in pure mathematics, though she seems never to have enjoyed it much".
Please explain the use or tell me the rule of NEVER.
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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Jeansmal » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:45 am

Joe wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:43 am
I hope never to see her again.
You are advised never to go there.

You should never see her again.
You must never go there again.

Can you spot the difference?
Please explain to me the use of this word. Many thanks.

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Joe » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:33 am

How would you say these sentences if you omitted NEVER?

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Joe » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:35 am

hope, advise
should, must

What's the difference?

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Jeansmal » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:37 pm

Joe wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:35 am
hope, advise
should, must

What's the difference?
Is it NOT?

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Joe » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:42 am

Jeansmal wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:11 am
Hi,
I've read this sentence:
"There are three things I have learned NEVER to discuss with peple: religion, polictics and the Great Pumpkin".
My question is can we use NEVER TO DO something? (I looked up in the dictionaries, I just found NEVER DO, without TO).
I learned to swim. :ok:
I never learned to swim. :ok: NEVER DO
I learned always to argue. :ok:
I learned never to argue. :ok: NEVER TO DO

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Jeansmal » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:06 am

Wow! Clear enough. I got it.
Thank you very much.

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Re: The use of NEVER

Post by Joe » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:03 am

Excellent ;-) Feel free to ask any further questions (in a separate topic).

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