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[offtopic]...Imagine that there are two haystacks lay on not in a big distance from each other. And, our stupid donkey looks at haystacks and cannot decide which one to eat. He thinks, again thinks...thinks a lot, but what happened? ..our poor donkey dies!!! (I guess you know why!). So the same with a stupid person. [offtopic]Hardi wrote:[offtopic]Could someone please explain to me. What is the difference between stupid donkey and stupid human[/offtopic]
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Re: Second chances
Rossana wrote:Hi!
I just want to hear some of your opinion regarding this..
If someone had hurt you so much in the past,(let´s say,your ex-boyfriend/girlfriend who cheated on you or a father who left you when you were young) and now he/she is trying to ask for your forgiveness, what would you do?
It's depend in the attitude if I see him he is really sorry about what had happend I'll forgive him ...
And i'll see his /her reasons
Rossana >> why you ask this question did any one cheat you ??
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It´s a very difficult subject!!! But I think it´s all about trust. You have to ask yourself: Can I trust on him/her again?. Remember that all the relationships are based fundamentally on Trust. If you are able to trust in that person who has hurt you without any doubts , well, go ahead, forgive him. Otherwise, You shouldn´t do it.
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Well, you shouldn´t say such a definitive statement. In my country we have a saying: "Don´t say you won´t drink that water because you will end up drinking it quicker". I´ve known cases of friends who used to think in that way and they end up forgiving their couples, even though they have been cought red-handed. Remember that Love turn us into irrational beings and make us do stupid thing that in other situation we wouldn´t do.....Xkalibur wrote:A girlfriend who cheated on me...I never forgive them.
P.S: Sorry abou the rough translation....
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Well, everyone of us has own perception to values of relationship ...Well, I'll say one thing..it may sound strange for you, anyway, it is based on my principles:jrkp wrote:Well, you shouldn´t say such a definitive statement. In my country we have a saying: "Don´t say you won´t drink that water because you will end up drinking it quicker". I´ve known cases of friends who used to think in that way and they end up forgiving their couples, even though they have been cought red-handed. Remember that Love turn us into irrational beings and make us do stupid thing that in other situation we wouldn´t do.....Xkalibur wrote:A girlfriend who cheated on me...I never forgive them.
P.S: Sorry abou the rough translation....
A girlfriend/ or wife is like a person that works in your 'company'(:arrow: she lives with you, raises your children, etc.) : you hired her because she was suitable person for your 'company' (:arrow: she loves you, you love her, etc.) and you in your turn pay her the salary (:arrow: it may be your attention, etc... all in all you try to make her feel happy as much as you can..). But one day appears another dude who promises her to pay high salary. And she leaves your 'company' with leaving out 'projects' you planned in the near future. In othe words, she cheated on you. She is irresponsible...that is a matter for me..of not forgiving girls/women like her.
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OK, sounds logically...but are you sure you will always be guided by common sense? Sometimes feelings go beyond all reasons :? Don't you think your heart is unpredictable?Xkalibur wrote:A girlfriend/ or wife is like a person that works in your 'company'(:arrow: she lives with you, raises your children, etc.) : you hired her because she was suitable person for your 'company' (:arrow: she loves you, you love her, etc.) and you in your turn pay her the salary (:arrow: it may be your attention, etc... all in all you try to make her feel happy as much as you can..). But one day appears another dude who promises her to pay high salary. And she leaves your 'company' with leaving out 'projects' you planned in the near future. In othe words, she cheated on you. She is irresponsible...that is a matter for me..of not forgiving girls/women like her.
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I must confess this is one of the most original explanation about this subject I´ve ever read!!! To me, even though it´s sound very logical, you have to remember that our actions are guided by two things: our emotions and our capacity to reason out, and both are always in eternal contradiction. It´s very difficult to balance those sides of our personalities, especially when we are talking about love, because it´s essentially emotional. Let me give you and example: A good girl is fallen in love but her boyfriend turns out to be a bump, I mean, he´s a guy who doesn´t work, he´s on drugs and he beats her everyday as well. Logically speaking, she shouldn´t be with him but you can see many cases where ladies not only don´t leave those "angels", also they justifies them for what they do. It´s the same thing when somebody is cheating.Xkalibur wrote:Well, everyone of us has own perception to values of relationship ...Well, I'll say one thing..it may sound strange for you, anyway, it is based on my principles:
A girlfriend/ or wife is like a person that works in your 'company'( she lives with you, raises your children, etc.) : you hired her because she was suitable person for your 'company' ( she loves you, you love her, etc.) and you in your turn pay her the salary ( it may be your attention, etc... all in all you try to make her feel happy as much as you can..). But one day appears another dude who promises her to pay high salary. And she leaves your 'company' with leaving out 'projects' you planned in the near future. In othe words, she cheated on you. She is irresponsible...that is a matter for me..of not forgiving girls/women like her.
I couldn´t say that better!!!! You´ve hit the target with that question because sums up what I´ve written above.....mamuta wrote:OK, sounds logically...but are you sure you will always be guided by common sense? Sometimes feelings go beyond all reasons Don't you think your heart is unpredictable?
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--mamuta wrote:OK, sounds logically...but are you sure you will always be guided by common sense? Sometimes feelings go beyond all reasons :? Don't you think your heart is unpredictable?
jrkp wrote:I must confess this is one of the most original explanation about this subject I´ve ever read!!! To me, even though it´s sound very logical, you have to remember that our actions are guided by two things: our emotions and our capacity to reason out, and both are always in eternal contradiction. It´s very difficult to balance those sides of our personalities, especially when we are talking about love, because it´s essentially emotional. Let me give you and example: A good girl is fallen in love but her boyfriend turns out to be a bump, I mean, he´s a guy who doesn´t work, he´s on drugs and he beats her everyday as well. Logically speaking, she shouldn´t be with him but you can see many cases where ladies not only don´t leave those "angels", also they justifies them for what they do. It´s the same thing when somebody is cheating.
I agree with you...particulary...Sometimes you meet a person and think that he/she is all your life...You think that you will never meet any one like her, anyone who will bring the meaning to your life again if you losing her (and even if you met your love, never can be sure if your feelings are mutual),...perhaps you're right.
If you're in doubt whether forgive a person who cheated on you, that is resonable, because it could be happen when you don't even expected that...You have a choice to forgive her, or live with a thought what to do with your suddenly broken heart etc...There may be many reasons so why people forgive..I am not trying to persuade them..everyone decides based on his own mind.
But as for me, I would choose the second one not only the matter on her, also because of me...why did she make a step toward infidelity is also my mistake.
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Re: Second chances
Rossana wrote:Hi!
I just want to hear some of your opinion regarding this..
If someone had hurt you so much in the past,(let´s say,your ex-boyfriend/girlfriend who cheated on you or a father who left you when you were young) and now he/she is trying to ask for your forgiveness, what would you do?
If God can forgive any crime made by human then why cant human forgive and give a 2nd chance to man kind like themselves! I know its hard and hurts alot but maybe it worth a try.
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OK, but I'm not so perfect... :?Ms.A.Z wrote:If God can forgive any crime made by human then why cant human forgive and give a 2nd chance to man kind like themselves!
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mamuta wrote:OK, but I'm not so perfect... :?Ms.A.Z wrote:If God can forgive any crime made by human then why cant human forgive and give a 2nd chance to man kind like themselves!
ME TOO....I never forgive....but there are times where i did..but things never been the same as it used to be.
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This is a dfficult question because every child has a different mind and feelings ( or reaction) about that fact! I would forgive because I don't want to die without forgiving any person in this world, at least at the last moment.krisi wrote:How about the father who left his child, if you're the child what would you do? Would you forgive?
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Oriani wrote:This is a dfficult question because every child has a different mind and feelings ( or reaction) about that fact! I would forgive because I don't want to die without forgiving any person in this world, at least at the last moment.krisi wrote:How about the father who left his child, if you're the child what would you do? Would you forgive?
You're so kind, Oriani. I was touched.
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Re: Second chances
It's always depends on the situation..whether to forgive that person or not...But in my case, I would forgive that person, but will never let that person enter in my life no matter who is he/she...
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Re: Second chances
Hi .someone said "A girlfriend who cheated on me...I never forgive them."
I think there is no difference between a girlfriend or a boyfriend.
About me I `ll forgive this crime.
I regard cheeting a crime.
I think there is no difference between a girlfriend or a boyfriend.
About me I `ll forgive this crime.
I regard cheeting a crime.
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Re: Second chances
You'll forgive but regard cheating as a crime. (be particular!) :? Is talking (if you regard this as cheating) with other people also a crime to you?shakespear wrote:Hi .someone said "A girlfriend who cheated on me...I never forgive them."
I think there is no difference between a girlfriend or a boyfriend.
About me I `ll forgive this crime.
I regard cheeting a crime.
I find this going nowhere really!!! :P
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Re: Second chances
Hi .I think it depeds on the situation and the volume of the cheet
For me I forgive anyone asking me to forgive him.there is no difference between girl or boy,woman or man.
For me I forgive anyone asking me to forgive him.there is no difference between girl or boy,woman or man.
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Re: Second chances
if the mistake is forgiveable and he/she do avouchment of his/her enigma again infont of me with the true heart than I will agreebly forgive him/her
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Re: Second chances
if some one cheat me once i'll never forgive him or her cuz. who cheat once cheat twice and more which i do not allow it at all
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Re: Second chances
We are only human beings.. That means we don't behave always in a proper way. Anyway, to be honest, who could claim he/she has NEVER done a mistake in his/her life? Who could sincerely say that his/her actions never hurt others?
In my opinion, we have to be able to forgive. Of course, it doesn't mean that relationships with an offender could be continued further. But we have to remember, that our soul might be destroyed by heavy burden of negative emotions.
There are too much cruelty and intolerance in the world... :(
That was what I think. In practice, my ability to forgive depends on situation. For example, I can't forgive my former friend for her affair with my former husband. Then, I can't forgive my former boyfriend for his disgraceful behaviour just when I needed help very much. I wish I could...
On the other hand, I could write lots of examples when I easily forgave my offenders...
To sum up, I think we have to be more merciful to others...
In my opinion, we have to be able to forgive. Of course, it doesn't mean that relationships with an offender could be continued further. But we have to remember, that our soul might be destroyed by heavy burden of negative emotions.
There are too much cruelty and intolerance in the world... :(
That was what I think. In practice, my ability to forgive depends on situation. For example, I can't forgive my former friend for her affair with my former husband. Then, I can't forgive my former boyfriend for his disgraceful behaviour just when I needed help very much. I wish I could...
On the other hand, I could write lots of examples when I easily forgave my offenders...
To sum up, I think we have to be more merciful to others...
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let me tell about my own experience...I haven't really a good life.. I was taking care by my uncle and I never live with my own father since I was baby untill I grow up when I was 17..thats really hurts me cuz my uncle never agree if my father want to see me b'cuz its forbide...
I ever disappointed by my boyfriend many times so I decided to break up :)
I ever disappointed by my boyfriend many times so I decided to break up :)
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I think that te person who can forgive it`s a big person.I forgived many times cuz we`re humans and we make mistakes.But I won`t never forgive my bf gor cheating .And also if my father let me when I was a child I will NEVER forgive him,4me he`ll b a dead person ,this is unforgivable.
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I think you may forgive your father just to begin a new future .
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Every particular situation would be unique... so in every particular case there would be different answer - to forgive or not...
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A good question. What's your opinion?Rossana wrote:Hi!
I just want to hear some of your opinion regarding this..
If someone had hurt you so much in the past,(let´s say,your ex-boyfriend/girlfriend who cheated on you or a father who left you when you were young) and now he/she is trying to ask for your forgiveness, what would you do?
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ha, I would give that damn guy a good slap across his face... I am not a forgiving person neither I am that kind to turn a blind eye on all the evil deeds that some one close has done to me just for the sake of our bonds. no, I won't forget and I won't forgive. I hate traitors and I can never accept them no matter what their excuse is... one may says this means I am a lonely one. it might be true, but I prefer to be lonely and by myself but don't let to get stabbed in the back by some one who was claiming himself/herself as my friend.Rossana wrote:Hi!
I just want to hear some of your opinion regarding this..
If someone had hurt you so much in the past,(let´s say,your ex-boyfriend/girlfriend who cheated on you or a father who left you when you were young) and now he/she is trying to ask for your forgiveness, what would you do?
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Forgiving is itself an excellence. I will forgive him/her
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It's been a while since I last visited this forum. I guess I have been so busy lately. I appreciate your comment on my post.
I think if we are stuck with pain and hatred we probably will not be able to forgive someone who hurt us so badly.Time heals and soon without seeing it coming, we'll realize there's nothing to worry about..We have already moved on , stronger and ready to forgive that person.
This is how I see it now. :)
I think if we are stuck with pain and hatred we probably will not be able to forgive someone who hurt us so badly.Time heals and soon without seeing it coming, we'll realize there's nothing to worry about..We have already moved on , stronger and ready to forgive that person.
This is how I see it now. :)
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HmmmRossana wrote:It's been a while since I last visited this forum. I guess I have been so busy lately. I appreciate your comment on my post.
I think if we are stuck with pain and hatred we probably will not be able to forgive someone who hurt us so badly.Time heals and soon without seeing it coming, we'll realize there's nothing to worry about..We have already moved on , stronger and ready to forgive that person.
This is how I see it now. :)
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Re: Second chances
It's a hard dilemma, at least for me.
I think it depends the situation and the person. My father was a great problem for the family for various reasons. Life was very difficult for us while he was alive. He got sick and as his family, we took care of him and when he was on deathbed we forgave him with all our heart. He died in peace because he saw that we had forgave him.
I think it depends the situation and the person. My father was a great problem for the family for various reasons. Life was very difficult for us while he was alive. He got sick and as his family, we took care of him and when he was on deathbed we forgave him with all our heart. He died in peace because he saw that we had forgave him.
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Re: Second chances
it's hard to answer
i'll forgive him/her because it's nice to make good relationship with everyone
i'll forgive him/her because it's nice to make good relationship with everyone