GAY MARRIAGE

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:00 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:Well, well. Sometimes I switch on TV in the afternoon and what I see??? Kissing man at the screen and other what have to be showed only after midnight. Perhaps, in the USA is working the strong lows but there we are shocked. Here this is called "democracy"
What show is that? I'm in the States and I haven't seen anything like that. Well, twice... Once in San Francisco and once on Will and Grace. That's all.

I didn't speak about USA. I'm speaking about my country and about shows which we can see by our TV. Of course, it isn't daily but sometimes our children can see it and they aren't controlled by us because we are working this time.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:08 pm

Cucumber wrote: I didn't speak about USA. I'm speaking about my country and about shows which we can see by our TV. Of course, it isn't daily but sometimes our children can see it and they aren't controlled by us because we are working this time.

Is it like a national TV channel or a, you know, channel? :?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:10 pm

Whole week our TV was talking about Elton Jone's wedding. My daughter asked me about this action and I was confused. I didn't know what I must say her.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:11 pm

Tora wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:I know, somebody will say "Oh, these old farts can't stop talking about God's conception for people, there is new times and everybody may do what they wish!" Maybe, maybe. But marriage between the same sex people is private, intim action, so phrase was told by Boris "don’t display it for everyone" is correct. Let anybody explane me what one would say to his child if he has asked " Mommy, why these men are kissing? Do you have any right ansver?
What he was saying is that they CANNOT get married, not just no intimate actions in public. And by all means, I think intimate actions in public is just yuck whether it's from a homo or a hetero couple. I mean, holding hand or hugging is okay, but kissing? Get a room, for crying out loud.

And what's wrong with gay parade? Do they have sex during the parade? Or do they just wanna show you they're existed and would like a little more respect from you?????
the bold is just what i share with you!

I'm fine with couples kissing each other before getting out of the cars to go to work, but I'm not fine when they do it while standing in line or so forth. Those long kisses in public just gross me out.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:15 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: I didn't speak about USA. I'm speaking about my country and about shows which we can see by our TV. Of course, it isn't daily but sometimes our children can see it and they aren't controlled by us because we are working this time.
Is it like a national TV channel or a, you know, channel? :?

Here isn't any restrctions for this. Our cable companies show the broadcast directly from satellite and nobody can control this. Of course, porno is forbidden.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:16 pm

Cucumber wrote:Whole week our TV was talking about Elton Jone's wedding. My daughter asked me about this action and I was confused. I didn't know what I must say her.

It depends on her age you should consider the answer. If you think she's old enough, I think you should tell her the truth. If she's a little girl, well, why don't you sing to her Phoebe's song,

"Sometimes men love women
And sometimes men love men
Then there are bisexuals
Though some just say they're kidding themselves
La-la-la-la-la-la..."

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:17 pm

Cucumber wrote: Here isn't any restrctions for this. Our cable companies show the broadcast directly from satellite and nobody can control this.

No parental setting or anything?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:22 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: Here isn't any restrctions for this. Our cable companies show the broadcast directly from satellite and nobody can control this.
No parental setting or anything?

He he! We have analog TV here! Nothing parental setting! See what you wish, baby!

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:26 pm

We try to restrict to access but it is not so easy!

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:27 pm

Cucumber wrote: He he! We have analog TV here! Nothing parental setting! See what you wish, baby!

Well, I wish we have it like that here, but I ain't having my wish, am I? My mom doesn't like cable, so we can't have it. And local broadcasting doesn't have many things to watch. They only show the stuff you're talking about on cable or satellite TV programs.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:28 pm

Cucumber wrote:We try to restrict to access but it is not so easy!

You mean you're hooked to those shows?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:36 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: He he! We have analog TV here! Nothing parental setting! See what you wish, baby!

Well, I wish we have it like that here, but I ain't having my wish, am I? My mom doesn't like cable, so we can't have it. And local broadcasting doesn't have many things to watch. They only show the stuff you're talking about on cable or satellite TV programs.[/quote
On my opinion, I don't wish neither cable nor satellite, only news chanels and such as "discovery". The DVD is enought. But I have no choise, if I wish "Discovey", I have to get fixed shedule of chanels. There is 45 and some from it show porno from time to time.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:41 pm

Cucumber wrote: On my opinion, I don't wish neither cable nor satellite, only news chanels and such as "discovery". The DVD is enought. But I have no choise, if I wish "Discovey", I have to get fixed shedule of chanels. There is 45 and some from it show porno from time to time.

If it's not local broadcasting, then why can't you set the password to block those channels? :?

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:24 am

As I have said before if homos wanna be together then nobody is stopping them but they must not invade my club called marriage. They must get their own club and call it another name because this name is already taken.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:41 am

Fine, they'd call it companonship/partnership ceremony. And it will celebrate in the different way, but its value is the same as a 'hetero' marriage. How about that?

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:50 am

Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:54 am

danyet wrote:Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!

Don't care about what you think, babe, as long as it's legal to all.

Tora · Post by **Tora** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:01 am

LennyeTran wrote:
Tora wrote:
LennyeTran wrote: What he was saying is that they CANNOT get married, not just no intimate actions in public. And by all means, I think intimate actions in public is just yuck whether it's from a homo or a hetero couple. I mean, holding hand or hugging is okay, but kissing? Get a room, for crying out loud.

And what's wrong with gay parade? Do they have sex during the parade? Or do they just wanna show you they're existed and would like a little more respect from you?????
the bold is just what i share with you!
I'm fine with couples kissing each other before getting out of the cars to go to work, but I'm not fine when they do it while standing in line or so forth. Those long kisses in public just gross me out.

I agree, last time i was travelling in metro i was standing blocked by two young couples, both kissing... felt embarassed, like standing in the centre of a square where a thousand lovers try to beat Guinness record...

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:28 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!
Don't care about what you think, babe, as long as it's legal to all.

That is the point..........it will never be "legal" to all. You can not legislate something like that.. for most people it will always be a mistake of nature nomatter what laws are enacted.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:33 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: On my opinion, I don't wish neither cable nor satellite, only news chanels and such as "discovery". The DVD is enought. But I have no choise, if I wish "Discovey", I have to get fixed shedule of chanels. There is 45 and some from it show porno from time to time.
If it's not local broadcasting, then why can't you set the password to block those channels? :?

There is no digital TV yet and we can't set parental control at our boxes. I've joked about DTV here.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:56 pm

danyet wrote:That is the point..........it will never be "legal" to all. You can not legislate something like that.. for most people it will always be a mistake of nature nomatter what laws are enacted.

Well, most of European countries have made it legal. So do Canada, Massachusetts, some South America countries, some African countries and Australia. And when we could kick Anorld out of office, Calif. will make it legal, too. The mid-west states? Well, I don't really care about their opinions since they're bunch of idiots, anyway. In short, I don't need all because I don't count those states.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:02 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Laws ... uality.PNG

Check that picture and you'll see that homosexual people are everywhere, and people are open-minded enough to acknowledge it except most countries in Africa. I mean, minimal, large, and death penalties? Life in prison? What the heck! :x

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:22 pm

I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety. I'm truing to translate a humur, maybe you'll understand it.
One gey comes to doctor and say:
" Doc, my bum isn't right, there is something wrong there. Visiting of toilet isn't so pleasantly to me"
Doc had wrote recipe and asked a nurse to put a stamp there. After gay had left him the nurse say "Listen, doc, but you've prescribed a strong laxative to him! Why!?"
"Let he know, for what his bum is needed!"
Maybe it's roughly, but I guess it is instructively.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:34 pm

Cucumber wrote:I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety.

This is the same as saying a man can't cry.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:46 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety.
This is the same as saying a man can't cry.

No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:53 pm

Cucumber wrote:
No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D

Who makes that rule?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:05 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D
Who makes that rule?

It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:09 pm

Cucumber wrote: It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.

Where did you get that proof? And are you telling me that people in European countries, Canada, etc. are nonsense to legalize homosexual marriages?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:20 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.
Where did you get that proof? And are you telling me that people in European countries, Canada, etc. are nonsense to legalize homosexual marriages?

And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:23 pm

Cucumber wrote: And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.

Are you telling me you're associating drugs with homosexuality?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:34 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.
Are you telling me you're associating drugs with homosexuality?

No, of course. I associate a principles. I'm not dogmatic person, let they live as they wish. But marriage with some sex people is unnormal. Marriage is living couple people with diffirent sex, let this action will be something other than marriage.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:43 pm

Cucumber wrote: No, of course. I associate a principles. I'm not dogmatic person, let they live as they wish. But marriage with some sex people is unnormal. Marriage is living couple people with diffirent sex, let this action will be something other than marriage.

May I ask how the principles are alike?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:44 pm

O'k. My second half is waiting me in the bed. We will be able to diskuss this tomorrow. See you later!

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:47 pm

Good night!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:21 am

Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.

And who said that?

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:59 am

I did!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:04 am

danyet wrote:I did!

**Bow**

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:13 am

Hi Dixie!!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:18 am

Hi Mister!

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:40 pm

Dixie wrote:
Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.
And who said that?

Danyet did. :D and I did, my wife did, my friend and and majority of other people too. :) Well, do you know what symbolize the "rainbow flag" and who inwented that one? The great idea of equality of rights, freedom of the individual, the idea of green peace, all this conceptions had in mean a philosopher and a scientist Nicolay Rerikh when he created this flag. Did he know really in 1921 that this is gey's flag?
Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.

Tora · Post by **Tora** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:48 pm

Cucumber wrote:
Dixie wrote:
Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.
And who said that?
Danyet did. :D and I did, my wife did, my friend and and majority of other people too. :) Well, do you know what symbolize the "rainbow flag" and who inwented that one? The great idea of equality of rights, freedom of the individual, the idea of green peace, all this conceptions had in mean a philosopher and a scientist Nicolay Rerikh when he created this flag. Did he know really in 1921 that this is gey's flag?
Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.

here starts a quarrel who brought life to us... was it god the merciful or the scientific monkeys the mammals... erm... aliens, no?

(please don't take these three lines for serious

)

I guess there is no need in all this persuation as everybody will definitely stand on his own ground... just sharing views, yeah... the time will determine who was right and who was wrong...

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:29 pm

Cucumber wrote: Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.

Ah ha! Gotcha! So now it's all about the Bible, and EVERYONE has to do what the Bible says?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:38 pm

There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:42 pm

Cucumber wrote:There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.

Okay, now who said that? Because I've heard people wanted their children to be from gay and back to straight, not the other way around.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:43 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.
Ah ha! Gotcha! So now it's all about the Bible, and EVERYONE has to do what the Bible says?

No, the point is in the other. This is only allegory. I would say about human's nature. Bible-neither here not there.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:46 pm

Cucumber wrote: No, the point is in the other. This is only allegory. I would say about human's nature. Bible-neither here not there.

Humans are born with homosexuality as like other animals. Some have it stronger than the others. How could one man and woman together is a part of human's nature? If you didn't talk about the Bible or base on it at all, then where did you get that fact?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:50 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.
Okay, now who said that? Because I've heard people wanted their children to be from gay and back to straight, not the other way around.

How many people do you know like they?

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:58 pm

Cucumber wrote: How many people do know like they?

How many people do you know are not like them? Homosexuality is not a fashion trend; one has to follow it when it's in style. Therefore, most people would be shocked when their children turned gay. They would slowly accept the fact later when they'd realized that they loved their kids more than what and how the society would think of them. Some just never wanted to accept their children were gays since it'd show they had hidden homosexuality inside them. Mothers who are more gay would have a big chance to give birth to gay sons.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6612

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:07 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: How many people do know like they?
How many people do you know are not like them? Homosexuality is not a fashion trend; one has to follow it when it's in style. Therefore, most people would be shocked when their children turned gay. They would slowly accept the fact later when they'd realized that they loved their kids more than what and how the society would think of them. Some just never wanted to accept their children were gays since it'd show they had hidden homosexuality inside them. Mothers who are more gay would have a big chance to give birth to gay sons.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6612

I know this and i agree with you in this fact. Also i know that these people is very unhappy and they often are trying change their sex. Will they really taking part in gay-parades?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:16 pm

Do you want to say that all these gays who is showed by TV and who take part in gay-parade are bored as homosexual?